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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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6 minutes ago, jewelsc said:

I too wondered if she knew what her mom did but somehow i get the feeling she doesn't but she is very happy

I think it depends if they made her character like the one in the novel. If they did, then she knew about it. We’ll see as the drama goes along.

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And her karma was getting a similar death during the revolt (From novel spoilers). I think she was the only bad or evil wife he had out of the 3 in the novel.

 

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40 minutes ago, tomo74 said:

If she isn't favored from her husband, she wasted her mother's secret tricks lol, guess crying and sweet talk only works for a decent stupid man not a playboy :joy: sorry for being so sarcastic, this is the chance for me to slap slap her and her parent since they annoyed me for along time, I can't wait to watch that episode and I'll scream "eat that s***", once again sorry for my rudeness :lol:

I know right.  I laughed when I saw Lin niang "fainted" when they were summoned by Sheng Hong, main wife and all the servants were there.  Then Sheng Hong said "take her away" and she miraculously regain consciousness.  :joy::joy::joy:  You could see that the 6th son of Liang is a rake.  He is not going to change and Molan will have to constantly fight for a place.  Poor Molan.  She told Changbai's wife that they will have to pay her respect now that she is marrying into the Liang family (being higher ranked than hers) and she was smirking about getting ahead of her sisters especially Ruolan.  I wanted to slap her then.  

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4 minutes ago, frenchfan said:

I wanted to slap her then.  

Molan can save her money for make up since her cheek naturally coloured by getting so many slaps :joy:

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51 minutes ago, m0us3y said:
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The version I saw never talked about the strategem of war?? 

I went back to watch the part again and I basically went 

ML: Er ship, why are you still a foot soldier?

GTY:  Yo, are u saying my position is too low?

ML: no way, I just feel that if you want to be promoted, you came to the wrong place. 

GTY: Why do U say that? 

ML: Although Youyang has disturbances, it's temporary and there's no military battles. You come here you can't really achieve military merit. If U go to the front line would u not get promoted faster?

GTY: do U know why I'm not at the front line?

ML : has to be U are too proud and offended ur superior. 

GTY: I did offend my superior but not because of my behaviour. 

ML: then it's because you achieved victory too quickly and blocked someone's path. Am I right? I thought I'd go back to capital and go under Gu army

 

And then GTY mentioned about wanting to gain merit and honours by himself for himself. 

And ML said she admires him?? 

 

 

@m0us3yYou are right. I think what I saw was the raw unedited version where she says something like you achieved victory and instead of "blocking someone's path" she said something like "and opened a path" + something else that sounded like a strategy or maybe it was just my version of interpretation. Sorry... guys .... but even in this edited conversation she is reading him correctly. 

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56 minutes ago, fra8 said:

I get why they might change even if I enjoyed that sl. in the book qh wasn’t a serious contender, she never loved him so it made sense gty wasnt worried about this. Here we and gty saw her love. She gave him up because of others but she had feelings. So it’s natural that gty and the viewers wonder if she were happy with gty or if he still were her second choice. They had to clear this.

Good point. I concur. 

She clearly still has lingering feelings for QH now so it would be good to clear the air about who she truly really love in the end. 

Especially if GTY really did "con" her into the marriage...

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2 hours ago, linhlinh111 said:

She was mean and hateful but she was not evil (her mother was) so that was enough of a punishment. The wedding was just the start. She was married off in a shameful way so her marriage wouldn't be peaceful.

 

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Her husband was a playboy. She spent most of her time fighting with concubines, had a few miscarriages and gave birth to all daughters, later the Sheng family was distant and didn't help her at all with her troubles, her mother could never return to the main house. But she got the status she wanted, although that was not exactly the life she was expecting. In the end she was the most pitiful of the 4 daughters, even got jealous with Rulan (Rulan married the man that was supposed to be betrothed to her but she detested him cuz he was just a poor student)

 

I like Rulan. I think she has a different attitude and maturity. 

Either she knows she's not as scheming and as manipulative as the 2 sisters or she simply doesn't want to be; I can't really tell for now (only still up to ep 28 :tears:)

 

But she always wanted a simple life.

As she said to the mom, better marry down to someone who won't bully her and make her life hard, and be happy, than marry up to get the status and be more influential on the outside, yet to suffer all mistreatment inside and be miserable. 

 

Ive always thought that itself is a type of maturity. That being happy is more important than being powerful but miserable. 

 

 

36 minutes ago, zenya22 said:

@m0us3yYou are right. I think what I saw was the raw unedited version where she says something like you achieved victory and instead of "blocking someone's path" she said something like "and opened a path" + something else that sounded like a strategy or maybe it was just my version of interpretation. Sorry... guys .... but even in this edited conversation she is reading him correctly. 

@zenya22There's an unedited version?? 

I thought the version on Viki is already the full one! Where did u watch that? *Jealous*:huh:

 

But yes. They both have the ability to read each other pretty well. That bit I agree

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Did anyone notice Gu tingye in ep 25 suddenly have a bread:blink: .when he was talking with his daughter he doesn`t have one.then suddenly at the fight scene he have it.or was it the lightning :lol:

Still at ep 28.Glad the Ml finally let go of QH.let`s move forward then:lol:.

i really love the conversation between GTY and ML . it shows how understating the two of them will be.can`t wait to see their develop of their relationship in the upcoming eps.

also in ep28 GTY said "In all matters, look ahead.light yourself a good future.was he hinting to the marriage?

 

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28 minutes ago, danatepe said:

Did anyone notice Gu tingye in ep 25 suddenly have a bread:blink: .when he was talking with his daughter he doesn`t have one.then suddenly at the fight scene he have it.or was it the lightning :lol:

Still at ep 28.Glad the Ml finally let go of QH.let`s move forward then:lol:.

i really love the conversation between GTY and ML . it shows how understating the two of them will be.can`t wait to see their develop of their relationship in the upcoming eps.

also in ep28 GTY said "In all matters, look ahead.light yourself a good future.was he hinting to the marriage?

 

:lol: yeah, GTY got himself a slight shadow/stache...he didn’t have it the first time they stopped but had like their version of a 5 o’clock shadow when they stopped again showing a little time has passed.

   It’s very foreshadowing that during each of ML’s major crisis, he was there at the closing...first time he told her she must cherish herself. This time he told her to look ahead. 

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51 minutes ago, m0us3y said:

There's an unedited version?? 

I thought the version on Viki is already the full one! Where did u watch that? *Jealous*:huh:

 

@m0us3yWhen the  subs first come out, they are not edited on the spot, the editor deadliftdiva_548, later edit the version and usually put in Viki that the subs are edited. The editor is also is kind enough to give information about back stories when she edits. That is whom I got the story of Princess Pinyang in the embroidery of ML's mom and info on the strategems from. Now, I see in the comment section that people also give information such as given by soompiers. 

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35 minutes ago, hello210 said:

 

   It’s very foreshadowing that during each of ML’s major crisis, he was there at the closing...first time he told her she must cherish herself. This time he told her to look ahead. 

That`s right. every time he hints to her about that:lol:.it shows that he actually cares for her even before that. if he wasn`t he won`t go have a talk wit QH about ML.I think that`s really shows he doesn`t anyone to speak badly about her from the point on.

 

also from the trailers out there.it shows the Minglan loves him.waiting for him to return from war and  running towards him..from the spoilers from the novel.it says that Minglan cares about him and wants to be only a good wife. but loves him very late.don`t know how it`ll be in the drama.but i think it`ll be worth waiting for

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2 hours ago, fra8 said:

I get why they might change even if I enjoyed that sl. in the book qh wasn’t a serious contender, she never loved him so it made sense gty wasnt worried about this. Here we and gty saw her love. She gave him up because of others but she had feelings. So it’s natural that gty and the viewers wonder if she were happy with gty or if he still were her second choice. They had to clear this.

In that trailer , did she respond to his question? 

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7 minutes ago, daebak42 said:

In that trailer , did she respond to his question? 

Nope...but before GTY asked, ML did ask GTY why did he marry her if he doubts her since he knows their (QH/ML) history. :tears:

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1 hour ago, m0us3y said:

I like Rulan. I think she has a different attitude and maturity. 

Either she knows she's not as scheming and as manipulative as the 2 sisters or she simply doesn't want to be; I can't really tell for now (only still up to ep 28 :tears:)

 

But she always wanted a simple life.

As she said to the mom, better marry down to someone who won't bully her and make her life hard, and be happy, than marry up to get the status and be more influential on the outside, yet to suffer all mistreatment inside and be miserable. 

 

Ive always thought that itself is a type of maturity. That being happy is more important than being powerful but miserable. 

 

 

@zenya22There's an unedited version?? 

I thought the version on Viki is already the full one! Where did u watch that? *Jealous*:huh:

 

But yes. They both have the ability to read each other pretty well. That bit I agree

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2 hours ago, frenchfan said:

I know right.  I laughed when I saw Lin niang "fainted" when they were summoned by Sheng Hong, main wife and all the servants were there.  Then Sheng Hong said "take her away" and she miraculously regain consciousness.  :joy::joy::joy:  You could see that the 6th son of Liang is a rake.  He is not going to change and Molan will have to constantly fight for a place.  Poor Molan.  She told Changbai's wife that they will have to pay her respect now that she is marrying into the Liang family (being higher ranked than hers) and she was smirking about getting ahead of her sisters especially Ruolan.  I wanted to slap her then.  

Yeah, he’s not going to change. In the carriage ride home from that second polo match, Liang mama to him that if he was obedient and properly married (her choice ML), he can have whoever he wants in his room and she (Liang mama) won’t fuss at him. And that’s if he’s marrying someone she likes. Wonder what she’ll allow when he marries someone she doesn’t like.

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15 minutes ago, m0us3y said:

Nope...but before GTY asked, ML did ask GTY why did he marry her if he doubts her since he knows their (QH/ML) history. :tears:

ML is really mad at GTY then.This is going to be one intense scene.

 

Just finished watching ep 29 (subbed version).Ruloan is a smart lass.She figured out in her own way the Liang son is not a worthy marriage partner. Only Molan couldn't see that she was getting herself mixed up in a situation which isn't advantageous.

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52 minutes ago, m0us3y said:

Nope...but before GTY asked, ML did ask GTY why did he marry her if he doubts her since he knows their (QH/ML) history. :tears:

I think that will probably be their turning point of being honest with their feelings for each other. Their feelings may be the only sticky subject that they avoided in the beginning until GTY gets jealous since we’ve seen how open they are about everything else (minus the secret protection). They both probably fell in love with each other but hid their feelings for different reasons. On ML’s side, she’s probably careful because of being hurt before and on GTY’s side, he’s probably been scared of the answer in case ML still harbored feelings for QH since he did know their history (and he fell for her first).

        Also, they are messing with us with that trailer because they put an old GTY/Maniang kiss on forehead scene in it (it happened the night before leaving for exams).

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I can't bear to see that scene of them. The jealous scene. I hope Minglan will answer him and tell that she only loves him.

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56 minutes ago, minglan1 said:

ML is really mad at GTY then.This is going to be one intense scene.

 

Just finished watching ep 29 (subbed version).Ruloan is a smart lass.She figured out in her own way the Liang son is not a worthy marriage partner. Only Molan couldn't see that she was getting herself mixed up in a situation which isn't advantageous.

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From the trailer, GTY seems to madder. Because ML was also being a super realist and said if he takes concubines, she will accept it. 

Prolly sounded a bit like she didn't love him enough to be jealous if he has another woman. 

45 minutes ago, hello210 said:

I think that will probably be their turning point of being honest with their feelings for each other. Their feelings may be the only sticky subject that they avoided in the beginning until GTY gets jealous since we’ve seen how open they are about everything else (minus the secret protection). They both probably fell in love with each other but hid their feelings for different reasons. On ML’s side, she’s probably careful because of being hurt before and on GTY’s side, he’s probably been scared of the answer in case ML still harbored feelings for QH since he did know their history (and he fell for her first).

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I think so. So I'm hoping it happened faster so that we get more honest communication between the 2 after that...

Although I'm suspecting it might be later...just because I felt action speaks louder than words, and when GTY fell from grace and ML stayed and helped him when he needed her most would show him that she does love him...just my suspicion tho. 

 

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23 minutes ago, bulubulu said:

I can't bear to see that scene of them. The jealous scene. I hope Minglan will answer him and tell that she only loves him.

Same. When I saw the trailer, I was prepping myself for a major fallout between the 2....:tears:

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9 minutes ago, m0us3y said:

Same. When I saw the trailer, I was prepping myself for a major fallout between the 2....:tears:

:D I just avoid that trailer now and watch the Zhi Fou MV on Viki. Every drama has some kind of tension between the leads so they can grow together. Waiting for the sweet scenes and the one where he picks her up and swings her around. 

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Someone said in the spoilers that GTY picks up ML and swings her around out of excitement  because he just found out she was prego. :wub:

 

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