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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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46 minutes ago, linhlinh111 said:
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Unlike the drama, in the book Qi mama did admit that ML is a smart, kind girl and would be a good wife for QH, however that couldn't overcome her lowborn status. Their family was in need of a wife from a powerful family so even though she didn't dislike her, she couldn't make her into QH's wife. She even suggested making her QH's concubine (at the time that was a suitable position for ML's status), which he refused saying she would never accept it. After his first marriage failed (really bad I must say), and also QH was trying really hard in his career to be more powerful and independent, she finally agreed to QH's request but her attempt failed (like I mentioned earlier). This is just a small detail between his 2 marriages. He even got married the 2nd time before ML married GTY (but then they were already betrothed). All of his marriages ended very soon. Maybe he got really bad luck in marriage. He was the one and only true most beautiful man of the capital even to his old age. One of ML's grandsons has set goal to overthrow this title of him (that part is in the extra)

 

Thanks. It’s going to be interesting to see how it’s all going to play out in the drama because QH’s mother in the drama is like a scary dragon mom who needs to control everything around her son so having him so emotionally attached to someone (besides his mother) is probably going to drive her nuts. We’ve already seen how she can be cruel with a straight face.  Doesn’t he have siblings in the book?  Saw somewhere that he was supposed to be the second child in the family but in the drama he’s an only child so he’s her only hope which is probably another reason why she’s so controlling and possessive (being quick to get rid of anyone in the household who even think to get his attention).

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 That feeling when you know they would not end up together yet you still fall for the trap. XD I am too hopless romantic for my own good.

 

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18 minutes ago, thatpers0n said:

 That feeling when you know they would not end up together yet you still fall for the trap. XD I am too hopless romantic for my own good.

 

 

Yeah that was so damn hard to watch i put my hands over my face and paused before that scene.. richard simmons. 

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Finished watching episode 21-22. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry! :unsure: QYH mom is a great example of leading a man with full of hopes. LOL I can see that in this episode QYH has touched Minglans heart. But she should’ve known that the proposal was too good to be true even had the granny fooled for a sec. But despite that it opened her eyes that he was really determined and that gave her a bit of hope but now she’ll just leave it to fate.... 

The scene with the bandits got my heart raising Xiaotao was giving me a nervous breakdown. Haha

Cant wait for the next episodes! 

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Just now, cherubstomato said:

Finished watching episode 21-22. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry! :unsure: QYH mom is a great example of leading a man with full of hopes. LOL I can see that in this episode QYH has touched Minglans heart. But she should’ve known that the proposal was too good to be true even had the granny fooled for a sec. But despite that it opened her eyes that he was really determined and that gave her a bit of hope but now she’ll just leave it to fate.... 

The scene with the bandits got my heart raising Xiaotao was giving me a nervous breakdown. Haha

Cant wait for the next episodes! 

 

If anything happens to Xiaotao ill be depressed.. please

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I felt for QH during this last episode, he just seems so young and inexperienced fumbling around to give her that present. 

 

6 hours ago, danatepe said:

yup.FSF acting is really great. i really love his acting .he never fails to impress me in all of his dramas.great actor indeed:wub:.

about the lighting i really wonder why he uses only candles to be the official light in most of the scenes.i thinks sometimes their faces always seems dark:lol:.first time to watch this kind of feeling:sweatingbullets:

 

I always thought he was good but that scene really impressed me. I just think he probably needs to pick his roles better. Some of his previous roles didnt show his range. 

I think it is a first for me to see this type of lighting but I think it works really well. I read that FSF said those scenes were really hard to film bc they had so many candles that sometimes it was difficult to breathe. 

 

2 hours ago, cherubstomato said:

Yes the cast was very good. And that’s why I sort of felt bad for Manniang even though she brought it to herself the acting was just something you feel compelled to forgive her just for the kids sake, after all in those days man can have many woman. But I’m surprised GTY didn’t forgive her. 

The scenes are so beautiful it really has to be watched at 1080HD. I find myself rewatching it on YT subbed after viki because the one on viki is only 720 which makes the scenes look even darker.... I’m glad they use their real voice too we get a better feel of how the actors want to act their characters...

 

@nnnju I can’t wait I hope that since the Gu family didn’t take out his name in the genealogy they are not up to something because he is rich and they might try to smooch off his merits! Ugh! 
 
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this had me rolling haha sorry not sorry.... Poor dear running for her life even when there were no more bandits hahaha

 

 
 

 

So while I understand her wanting to better herself, she was very insincere in her feelings for him. She could have a good life as a concubine but she kept ruining his chances to marry bc she wanted to be the main wife. And in the end she was willing to sell all his stuff and leave him in his time of need so it was better to cut your ties with someone like that. He was too good to her and that is why she was able to take his son away. The fact that she only took his son kind of shows that she really doesnt care for her kids either. 

 

Yes, the drama does deserve to be watched in HD. It feels like we are looking into life during those times. 

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Until ep 22, only QH shows his love to ML and it's very cute so I can't wait until GTY and QH fight for ML and shower her with their loves, double cute :wub::wub:

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2 minutes ago, tomo74 said:

Until ep 22, only QH shows his love to ML and it's very cute so I can't wait until GTY and QH fight for ML and shower her with their loves, double cute :wub::wub:

 

It wont really be a fight between them unless they make change's. 

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8 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

Yeah that was so damn hard to watch i put my hands over my face and paused before that scene.. richard simmons. 

Oh fellow QHxMinglan shippers?  I do not even know what I saw that made me ship them (probably the good acting of the two people?)  Since on the novel, I juat saw them as brother and sister. 

7 minutes ago, cherubstomato said:

Finished watching episode 21-22. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry! :unsure: QYH mom is a great example of leading a man with full of hopes. LOL I can see that in this episode QYH has touched Minglans heart. But she should’ve known that the proposal was too good to be true even had the granny fooled for a sec. But despite that it opened her eyes that he was really determined and that gave her a bit of hope but now she’ll just leave it to fate.... 

I doubt that since a lot are saying how Minglan will make sure to clear the lines. Though I wish she would as the only way the ship will continue if she will be daring enough to ignore all odds just to follow her heart. 

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18 minutes ago, thatpers0n said:

Oh fellow QHxMinglan shippers?  I do not even know what I saw that made me ship them (probably the good acting of the two people?)  Since on the novel, I juat saw them as brother and sister. 

I doubt that since a lot are saying how Minglan will make sure to clear the lines. Though I wish she would as the only way the ship will continue if she will be daring enough to ignore all odds just to follow her heart. 

 

Im not QH/ML shipper i just knew it was coming and seeing QH reaction just made my heart drop for him his mum is truly evil.  

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7 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

It wont really be a fight between them unless they make change's. 

Oh thanks, i'm a bit lost here since so many spoilers (from the book)

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Ha ha.. Some netizens suggested why can't ml has two husbands ??.. Lol

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I'll ship ML with the person ML loves, so as up to the current episodes, I'll ship her with QH, please don't hate me GTY/ML shipper, I haven't reach that far yet :cry:

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6 minutes ago, leeza77 said:

Ha ha.. Some netizens suggested why can't ml has two husbands ??.. Lol

Is that true? 

3 minutes ago, tomo74 said:

I'll ship ML with the person ML loves, so as up to the current episodes, I'll ship her with QH, please don't hate me GTY/ML shipper, I haven't reach that far yet :cry:

Lol. Ship whoever you want. Look at me, knowing my ship is drowning I just ship whoever I see like Changbei and GTY. XD I am so depressed. 

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14 minutes ago, tomo74 said:

Oh thanks, i'm a bit lost here since so many spoilers (from the book)

 

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Even in the books they never really fought for ML against each other but maybe im wrong , at least in the drama it will be a bit different they might have a few arguments but it wont be the typical fighting over one girl people expect. 

 

12 minutes ago, leeza77 said:

Ha ha.. Some netizens suggested why can't ml has two husbands ??.. Lol

 

I would love it if a historical drama did change it up and instead of Emperor it was Empress and Instead of female's being the harem male's are instead omg please that would be hilarious.

 

instead of a harem of female's its all male's and they fight each other for the empress omg would be so funny. 

 

Also the servants are all boy's instead of female's as well would be hilarious. 

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5 minutes ago, tomo74 said:

I'll ship ML with the person ML loves, so as up to the current episodes, I'll ship her with QH, please don't hate me GTY/ML shipper, I haven't reach that far yet :cry:

 

I dont ship them but she is cute with QH. I felt bad for him. They do make a cute first love type of couple. It made me wish they could get married but then I think that if she had married him her life would have been really hard in his household. 

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1 The Story of Ming Lan (Hunan TV) 1.146
2 The Great River (JSTV) 0.894
3 The King of Blaze 2 (Hunan TV) 0.772
4 The Lady in Cubicle (ZJSTV) 0.676
5 Behind the Scenes (Dragon TV) 0.606
6 Our Youth (Shandong TV) 0.455
7 Behind the Scenes (BTV) 0.454
8 The Story of Xijing (Anhui TV) 0.32
9 Forty Years We Walked (Guangdong TV) 0.304
10 Our Glamorous Time (SZTV) 0.294

 

Hit a new high on Live rating's , should continue to rise i hope it can reach 2.0 before the end but just from one channel would be hard. 

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Oh gawd...

So we have 19-20 which was really sad for QTY, and we have 21-22 which are really sad for ML and QH?? 

 

Gimme some happy moments already!! :tears:

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Just now, m0us3y said:

Oh gawd...

So we have 19-20 which was really sad for QTY, and we have 21-22 which are really sad for ML and QH?? 

 

Gimme some happy moments already!! :tears:

 

Happy moments will be last 10 episode's lmfao. 

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Finished 21 and 22: all I can say is Qi Heng needs to grow up, he is a child. He is a good person, handsome ,  earnest, fun and adorable and he is young and immature. Ming Lan is also infatuated, it is clear she developed feelings for QH. I feel empathy for Ming Lan most, first love broken heart. I also understand and totally agree with the Princess, QH's mother, but I disagree with her method of breaking the bethrothal request,  when she shamed the Sheng Family and hurt kind granny. She should have shamed her son, talk to him properly and told him the deal

 

QH: I will not ask any favor from you ever again, this is one last time..... hmmmm really?? when he is dependent on them and his ducal title?

 

Mom: you did not pass your exam because you were sighing at your books instead of studying them, you were polo playing, skirt chasing, no career and worse wanting to marry an orphan child of a concubine, with low family status, no money, what kind of family life are you trying to establish

 

QH: I will pass my exam, I will study, just help ask for the marriage bethrothal I promise I will pass

 

mom: did you not hear a thing I said? aren't you reversing priorities here? what if the political climate changes and the ducal title and wealth is gone, what then son... should you not have passed the exam first, establish career and then think of marriage... you gotta have something to offer sonny

 

OK, the princess did not really say all of that but I imagine that was the point. QH is all about the chase now. It is not even heart over mind or heart and mind but all about hormones/testosterone gone fierce, I just want to plant my seeds. He is young, spoiled and seems not used to hearing the word no...and the reasons for it. It is all about him because if he were thinking maturedly, he would have asked himself the question, how can I be worthy of the woman I love, what can I Qi Heng, offer her and do to make her happy? But it is also the fault of the parents for making everything easy for him. Instead of Mom directly explaining why she can't help QH, she went to indirectly shame the Sheng family and hurt Ming Lan and the grandmother. QH was never taught patience and endurance it seems. 

 

What I enjoyed most ep 22:

Chang Bai whom I am very proud of. Big Mama may be hot tempered but she is a good mother. She raised her children well. CB and his beautiful bride went to bow to their parents for the first time. I laughed so hard when Big Mama tried to teach the new bride about how to run her household and CB answered his mother saying that they, as husband and wife will take care of their own household matters, in other words, "stay out of it, mom." Daddy Sheng and the new bride tried hard not to laugh. Then new bride looked at her husband giving a thank you smile and CB nodded back implying "no worries babe, I got your back covered."

 

Maybe QH should have CB as his role model. 

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