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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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For me ML just gave Concubine Lin and Molan "enough rope to hang themselves", but their downfall was completely their own doing. 

Too bad the dad will never get what he deserves for his part because in my opinion he is kinda an accomplice in ML's mother's death with him giving Lin so much power in the household and always looking the other way when she did (more and more) despicable things. If she had not been sure of getting away with it and even counting on him forgiving her (and not investigating it), she probably would not have dared to do such a thing...

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1 hour ago, lyaarisa said:

 

LOL... I laugh when I read this part in novel.. GTY corrected ML to call him as "Husband" or else she got punishment.. When ML call him husband, she end up EATEN by GTY.. Muahahahaha.. Im sure the eat up the wifey part will be milder in drama.. But we can hope to see some kisses scenes right.. HAHAHAHAH (pervert mode on) :phew:

 

 

Let us throw confetti around, use party hats and burn some fireworks to celebrate Molan, Mdm Liang n Mdm Gu jealous expression... Hahahahaha :star:

 

 

Our dearest little lamb Minglan is the "HOT STUFF" of Sheng family.. hahahah... 

Yes, lets thrown confettis ha ha ha........But I do like Mme Liang and the way she spoilt Minglan.  She didn't do her any harm except to want her control her son's harem.  But it was more of a motherly interest not malice.  Whereas Mme Gu and Molan are petty people.  Especially GTY wiked stepmom.  Two faced witch.  You could see her bitterness.  Never thought that GTY would managed to survived after being cruelly turned out from his home.  Served her right.  I hope to see her get her just dessert.  And no, I don't want her to die.  It will be too easy for her.  I want to see her suffer.  Muahaha

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Richard Simmons?  You mean the exercise guy from the 80's? Can someone explain what this means?

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2 minutes ago, deslynn88 said:

Richard Simmons?  You mean the exercise guy from the 80's? Can someone explain what this means?

 

Certain curse words/insults are automatically changed to "Richard Simmons" by Soompi. 

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1 hour ago, hello210 said:

Haven’t looked at the previews or anything but the Gu’s are not very rich and most of their assets came from GTY’s mother’s dowry.  In my opinion, they’re very greedy and only saw GTY’s mother as their $$ source. In the novel spoilers, they were trying to keep GTY from it all because they didn’t want to loose their cushy life, but the only time they brought up giving GTY a concubine was about a year after marriage because ML hadn’t gotten pregnant yet so they used that as the excuse.  GTY shut them down and right after that found out that ML was already pregnant.  After being newly married, concubines don’t usually get introduced unless the wife can’t get pregnant because of inheritance issues (unless the husband is a womanizer like 6th Liang son). Once a sufficient amount of time has passed, family members can press that the main wife accept a concubine to ensure children and use the execuse of filial piety and being a virtuous wife to force the main wife’s hand. We’ll see how they play it out in the drama.

 

I'm not sure how much later is that scene in the preview, but due to the book troubles with concubines arised twice. First was right after marriage, stepmom called the pair over and gave them 2 women. They were all GTY's women before ML. One of them was GTY's tongfang maid. In families with status, when a boy came of age, their mother (or grandmother) would send them maids to teach them about s*x. Those maids later would become their concubines after they got married. Those maids were called tongfang maids. The other one was a concubine that GTY's first wife took in on behalf of him. These 2 women took care of Rong'er when she was staying at the Gu family. But there are no first wife and Rong'er doesn't live with Gu family in the drama so I'm not sure if they would keep this scene.

 

Second time was when GTY was away on the battlefield, ML was pregnant. Stepmom didn't want GTY to have an heir, so she push ML to receive a concubine, trying to shock her into premature birth. But that doesn't seem to fit the scene either. Maybe drama would make a change here and go through with the plot you predicted. It's more common in this type of drama.

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1 hour ago, RobinM said:

The blunt fact is: Grandma did a pretty poor job of raising Dad to be a strong and discerning man.She should have put as much care and wisdom into him as she has Ming Lan.

She didn’t raise him. She was concentrating on her sick son but he died. When she was occupied with this, the other concubines bullied Sheng Hong Concubine mother & him. That why he always supported Lin & her children. It was in one of the first episodes 

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14 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

You act like they were best friends or anything are they even friends? they knew each other and talked that is about it.

 

Lets compare it to real life , your mother wants you to marry this girl and you marry her and then you decide oh i remember my first love let me go marry her instead.. but wait someone you knew proposed first . Its totally fine for that person you know to propose when you already gave her up. 

Are they friends? I think they are (GTY offered to help QH for kidnapping the princess, people wont offer such dangerous idea if they are not friend, toooooo risky) but how close are they, I dont know.

About marry the girl, QH was forced to marry that princess (he want to kill himself so he wont marry her, but the princess's mother threaten him for killing his lover if he kill himself), not because he choose to marry the princess willingly, like if your mum forced you to marry someone you dont love (at that time, you dont know that your husband/wife life will be short and you become a widow/widower), you have to say goodbye to your lover to free him/her, but thing's changed, suddenly you have the opportunity to go back to your lover and you know he/she is still available (you dont know that he/she is actually engage to someone else), so you chase him/her again but to find out that your friend (the friend that know your love history) is your lover fiance, do you feel like that friend is stabbing your back?, maybe if the fiance is a random people, you might not that angry.

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7 minutes ago, darkphoenix123 said:

The wedding looks grand. Looks like GTY went all out. They look so happy & Sheng Hong looks so proud 

The wedding looks really grand.  I am happy that he showed how much he care with all the "entourage".  That her marrying him is something to be proud of.  He looked so happy and her family too.  

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Yes.ML is or will be a wicked smart power player and manipulater. But In her circumstances, in her time and place weak, soft  people ended up like her mother or that  eldest girl .It was survival of the fittest . The difference between her and Concubine Lin though is ML has a moral core and won’t hurt innocents to further herself or agenda.GTY is the same... He is a good person but not a soft one. Soft gets you killed.

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13 minutes ago, linhlinh111 said:

 

I'm not sure how much later is that scene in the preview, but due to the book troubles with concubines arised twice. First was right after marriage, stepmom called the pair over and gave them 2 women. They were all GTY's women before ML. One of them was GTY's tongfang maid. In families with status, when a boy came of age, their mother (or grandmother) would send them maids to teach them about s*x. Those maids later would become their concubines after they got married. Those maids were called tongfang maids. The other one was a concubine that GTY's first wife took in on behalf of him. These 2 women took care of Rong'er when she was staying at the Gu family. But there are no first wife and Rong'er doesn't live with Gu family in the drama so I'm not sure if they would keep this scene.

 

Second time was when GTY was away on the battlefield, ML was pregnant. Stepmom didn't want GTY to have an heir, so she push ML to receive a concubine, trying to shock her into premature birth. But that doesn't seem to fit the scene either. Maybe drama would make a change here and go through with the plot you predicted. It's more common in this type of drama.

 

Well we do know MN is coming back and trys to stop ML during child birth or was that someone else it looked like her though. 

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18 minutes ago, mayonnaisepan said:

the other thing i wanted to say is that in the most recent episode, when GTY is confessing everything he did to basically entrap ML into marriage, i kept thinking, "this little rascal!" if i didn't have a favorable opinion of GTY and of FSF acting as GTY, i would think he's an richard simmons! lol! he kept laughing and was saying how "i couldn't sleep the whole night after i found out ______" (for example when he says he found out that dr he's cousin was someone he could use/manipulate). all the while as he was confessing, i thought that he was such a richard simmons! probably similar to ML who thought, how dare this man use such dirty means and treat me like some sort of pet to be captured! but at the same time, like ML, i also thought, damn he really did go to extremes to make sure everything went according to plan! 

Thank you for honest confession that you have favour GTY:blush: so everything (even bad thing) that GTY do are ok.

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5 minutes ago, tomo74 said:

Are they friends? I think they are (GTY offered to help QH for kidnapping the princess, people wont offer such dangerous idea if they are not friend, toooooo risky) but how close are they, I dont know.

About marry the girl, QH was forced to marry that princess (he want to kill himself so he wont marry her, but the princess's mother threaten him for killing his lover if he kill himself), not because he choose to marry the princess willingly, like if your mum forced you to marry someone you dont love (at that time, you dont know that your husband/wife life will be short and you become a widow/widower), you have to say goodbye to your lover to free him/her, but thing's changed, suddenly you have the opportunity to go back to your lover and you know he/she is still available (you dont know that he/she is actually engage to someone else), so you chase him/her again but to find out that your friend (the friend that know your love history) is your lover fiance, do you feel like that friend is stabbing your back?, maybe if the fiance is a random people, you might not that angry.

Yeah, imagine just getting rid of a crazy maniac of a wife you were forced to marry, now you are ready to go back to the love of your life and all the conditions are met. But suddenly you hear that your friend (who kinda used to be your wing man) is engaged with her. Also he was originally after her sister, and her family just kinda switched her in after her sister got into a scandal. If it were someone else or the situation didn't look that messed up maybe QH wouldn't be that enraged.

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QH & ML & QTY...

 

What a tangled web we weave!

 

QH found himself suddenly and fortuitously widowed.  WHO KNEW he could be so lucky after all the bad luck?

So NOW he could pursue the woman he truly wanted, and those pesky threatening 3rd tier royals were nowhere to be found as they are very D-E-A-D.

 

QTY was a rogue.  He was an outcast from is family due to hanging out with and keeping a bar singer, setting-up household with her, having children with her, and trying to get her accepted into his family/household.  Earlier, that very thing  that caused all kinds of uproar in his house when they tried to arrange a 'decent' marriage for him and the mistress took full advantage making scenes everywhere:  PLEASE?  Just let me be an accepted concubine.   Yeah, right.  Her scam was to take over and be accepted as an aristocrat.  

 

QH knew about QTY's relationship issues.  ML, if she marries QTY, has to deal with his runaway mistress and QTY's two kiddos.  So of course QH looks like a better choice.  Even though his mother is overbearing, he doesn't have the other mistress-related baggage and bad relations with his family baggage.  

 

QTY's new found legitimacy (saving the emperor) and the favoritism displayed by the emperor puts him in a whole new light and now makes him much more desirable as a marriage prospect.  Everyone seems inclined to forget all that bar singer/mistress business. 

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15 minutes ago, tomo74 said:

Are they friends? I think they are (GTY offered to help QH for kidnapping the princess, people wont offer such dangerous idea if they are not friend, toooooo risky) but how close are they, I dont know.

About marry the girl, QH was forced to marry that princess (he want to kill himself so he wont marry her, but the princess's mother threaten him for killing his lover if he kill himself), not because he choose to marry the princess willingly, like if your mum forced you to marry someone you dont love (at that time, you dont know that your husband/wife life will be short and you become a widow/widower), you have to say goodbye to your lover to free him/her, but thing's changed, suddenly you have the opportunity to go back to your lover and you know he/she is still available (you dont know that he/she is actually engage to someone else), so you chase him/her again but to find out that your friend (the friend that know your love history) is your lover fiance, do you feel like that friend is stabbing your back?, maybe if the fiance is a random people, you might not that angry.

 

Maybe i just see it differently to others but in drama time its most likely been over a year , he can get angry i understand where hes coming from but it ends after they get married if he carry's it on you think that is fine? 

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10 minutes ago, frenchfan said:

The wedding looks really grand.  I am happy that he showed how much he care with all the "entourage".  That her marrying him is something to be proud of.  He looked so happy and her family too.  

Did you 6th Liang with the others at the house entrance? Cheng Bai looks like he doesn’t know what to think about GTY’s elation lol

 

The reason I don’t like Mama Liang is that she knows her son is a womanizer & already has a pregnant Concubine & was willing to push a girl into that snake pit. It is maternal for her but that would have spoiled a girl’s life. Also, I really disliked her ‘I will take Molan in as a concubine  if Minglan becomes the main wife’ 

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4 minutes ago, tomo74 said:

Thank you for honest confession that you have favour GTY:blush: so everything (even bad thing) that GTY do are ok.

 

Its not ok but hes doing it to win the person he loves at least hes fighting for what he loves. 

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1 hour ago, JoycceeDreamer said:

I seriously cannot wait until subs are released to understand all of this. I just hope they like GTY. 

I hope GTY will come to the rescue lol...cause they are so evil to do it the next day after the wedding????

Right.  So much drama right after her wedding.  Poor Minglan.  I hope she will persevere.

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8 minutes ago, linhlinh111 said:

Yeah, imagine just getting rid of a crazy maniac of a wife you were forced to marry, now you are ready to go back to the love of your life and all the conditions are met. But suddenly you hear that your friend (who kinda used to be your wing man) is engaged with her. Also he was originally after her sister, and her family just kinda switched her in after her sister got into a scandal. If it were someone else or the situation didn't look that messed up maybe QH wouldn't be that enraged.

 

I understand what he said in that scene but if he wont move on afterwords then i have 0 sympathy or care for his character. 

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5 minutes ago, tomo74 said:

Thank you for honest confession that you have favour GTY:blush: so everything (even bad thing) that GTY do are ok.

It’s not the bad things that he does are okay. It’s like what Minglan & grandma felt in today’s episode. GTY planned extensively & gave it his all to fight for the girl he loves & wanted to marry. He didn’t give up & even if he was in a position like QH where he was blackmailed knowing GTY he would have found a way around it. That’s his character. He plans & fights. He always looks out for ML’s reputation too. Even all this plotting he made sure ML came out on top. That is what people admire, atleast I do

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