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So his family died? Will miss the girl playing as doter, really like her actings. Very talented girl.

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Does anybody know who does the subs for this?

I opened viki and it doesn't have them, viu does not open in my country and dramafever does not have any info at all :(

 

Edit : Well, just saw it on a illegal site so guess it's viu after all (the only one I can't acess at all)

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14.5% for first episode. Thats huge. seem like sbs on winning strike, back to back number one on mon-tues, wed-thu

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8 hours ago, glee77 said:

Does anybody know who does the subs for this?

I want to remind everyone that since Viki had bought Soompi forums these are now officially Viki's Forums.  (in doubt? just watch for the huge "Presented by Viki" banners on Drama they bring to us.)

I highly suggest to NOT post here ANY other source for subs, even if it is legal;

 

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This comment is meant for everyone here.

As much as I love the Viki community, the organization has monopolistic tendencies.

They have already bought one competitor out (and destroyed a precious classic Kdrama library in the process. Kdrama had them all from Crunchyrol. Soompi TV had them form Kdrama, and it took Viki to totally destroy it). They have essentially ruined KBS World for all of the viewers who were watching it for free on YT.

I highly suggest, that unless we want to see a very sad world where Viki is our only option for Asian content, to not mention on Soompi forums,(aka Viki forums) any other sources. Not even mention that there is a subbed episode, even on pirated sites (unless it is on Viki).

Even if we do not know where to look, they do, and they will set up to destroy their competition or buy them out. (God knows they have the funds, since they rely on the kind heart of volunteers for subbing). There are Viki "spies" all over the forums. That is one of the reasons they bought out Soompi, so they can learn more about what their competition is doing. Lets not help them with it.

They are actively out to destroy their competition. And since they bought these forums, it is really their forum now.  It is no longer the Soompi Forums we used to know and love. No reason to let them know what the competition is doing, unless we also want to destroy their competition, and leave us all no alternative but Viki.


 

 

6 hours ago, Chi Le said:

14.5% for first episode. Thats huge. seem like sbs on winning strike, back to back number one on mon-tues, wed-thu


That's fantastic. Thank you for letting us know.

Thank you @andy78 for recaps. Thank you @Kasmic for screen caps.. How I love the ones with father and daughter.

Heading now to watch the episode.

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7 minutes ago, irilight said:
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Since Viki had bought Soompi forums these are now officially Viki's Forums.
I highly suggest to NOT post here ANY other source for subs, even if it is legal;

 

REALLY?THEY BOUGHT SOOMPI FORUMS?I HAD NO IDEA!!!WHEN? 14.5% for first episode. FIRST PLACE ...CONGRATULATIONS !

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17 minutes ago, irilight said:

Since Viki had bought Soompi forums these are now officially Viki's Forums.
I highly suggest to NOT post here ANY other source for subs, even if it is legal;

 

Please enlighten me with your theory. :) - I'm waiting.

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1 hour ago, irilight said:

I want to remind everyone that since Viki had bought Soompi forums these are now officially Viki's Forums.  (in doubt? just watch for the huge "Presented by Viki" banners on Drama they bring to us.)

I highly suggest to NOT post here ANY other source for subs, even if it is legal;

 

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it's the first time i'm hearing this:mellow: 

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5 hours ago, Chi Le said:

Just finish watching raw. With currently airing: voice - murder every episode, introvert boss - suicide first episode, i dont feel like wanting another dark drama. With me ji sung and jang hyuk are somehow similar as well...

The first episode was mostly ji sung alone. I read that there is twin brothers? Did both of them appear or only one of them? or the one that die is the brother? yuri didnt appear this episode. Oh Chang-seok as Kang Min-seok - didnt leave any impression on me, im not sure he appears or not. Uhm Hyun Kyung isnt impressive, i havent watched anything of her yet, except happy together.

This drama is very specific type. If someone like this type will watch it, if someone dont they wont. So im not sure it will appear for large audience. I feel better if its a cable drama, like in voice they can go for anything.

 

Yes the twins Cha Min Ho and Cha Sun Ho who is played by Uhm Ki Joon did appear in ep 1. Somehow I find it so hard to believe a twin would be this evil? was he that desperate to get out of crime to kill his own brother to take his identity or is he just that psychotic.Writer at this stage your doing a remarkable job in showing how chillingly crazy CMH is yet please it seem a little rushed. To have CSH die so quickly WOW and without giving us more information on his life :crazy: Really? Im not one whom complains about a plot but seriously Im kindof disappointed. Will they give us some flashback scenes here and there to make up for it? Ok so CMH has the motive to kill but where is the reason? I guess this will be slowly panned out as the drama airs and keeping me in total suspense. :o

I think I have to keep reminding myself that this drama is full of suspense and is a thriller. Hence someone will die and that it's not full of butterflies and flowers....aish!!! What am I getting into lol! Though Im intrigued I still want to know more. Like why SH wife didnt straight away go to the police and chose to continue living with the killer of her husband. I hope they will explain this point in ep 2 tonight :angry: Writer's you need to improve in this area? Her fear alone does not make sense for her to not do anything infact if anything its her fear that should take her to the police. I dont get it :crazy: I havent seen Uhm Hyun Kyung in any dramas too but I just hope the writer wont make her such a coward to just "sit by" and let the real CMH take over. YAH! <_<

 

CONGRATULATIONS DEFENDANT TEAM on 14.5% ratings!! I hope it continues well.

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source -http://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=108&aid=0002586064

@irilight your right about this writer... Im getting worried for JiSung and the other casts now and it's only ep 1 :cry:

 

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i havent watched sub, i guess i just skip it to epi 2

i thought the one in suit plan to tell the truth, his brother kill him instead, then his brother change his clothes into suit and come back home to the one in suit's wife. i thought he said to the wife that his brother is dead?

- ok so i watch the part: the wife know its min ho right away but he threaten her because he knows her son/daughter isnt his brother's.

i never watch uhm ki joon either. seem like he done more theater than tv. With that high rating, im not sure becaúse of the doctor just end or the star power of ji sung and uhm ki joon. i just search ji sung last few drama, the rating start quite low as well.

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AAAAaaaaaaahhhhh ~!!!!  that was an intense ep, I don't really have a clue as to how this drama's story progresses  coz so many things happened in the first episode ... but I'm hoping I could adjust to the editing, this was soo fast phased compared to other dramas I've watched soo... yea,  I'm still excited for ep 2 later .. I'm hoping many people will try to watch this esp int'l fans coz I want many int'l drama viewers to appreciate it so I can read comments, it'll be not underrated ..

 

I'm liking their family . .aren't they a happy family ? they're so cute too

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but I think the highlight in the 1st ep is the Cha brothers ....  how could a sibling do that?! Sunho should've told the prosecutors Minho's whereabouts, so he wouldn't end up dead.... I think Minho is the evilest drama villain I know and the evilest character played by Um Ki Joon or maybe on par with his character on phantom .. 

 Sunho and Minho has different vibes and I'll give UKJ a thumbs up good job onion head 

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On 1/21/2017 at 4:39 AM, irilight said:

I have actually don't think I have seen Uhm Ki-Joon in anything... wait, he was in "I can Hear Your Voice" but I do not remember him.. sorry...  I have  a feeling that after Defendant I will be looking for more content with him. And yes, I agree with you. I cannot imagine they will actually have the little girl killed.

he wasin IHYV ep 14  ..  

Spoiler below is summary of villain roles of UKJ from 2012

I think it's more evil than his char in "phantom" ... he just killed his gf, detectives and manipulated BOD in his company to be in his side to get revenge; ...  in "golden cross" he's a rich person that manipulates things to get what he was tasked to do, ..in "nightmare high"  he played a teacher but offer contracts to students to get what they want in exchange for their lives  ...

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good start:thumbsup::)

Ratings 170123: #Defendant : 14.5%

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#Hwarang : 11% #NightLight : 4.1% #IntrovertedBoss : 2.1%

K-Drama News! 

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"Defendant" comes in first right away

2017/01/23 

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"Defendant" had a good start.

According to Nielsen Korea, the new SBS drama "Defendant" came in first on the 24th with 14.5%.

This is a great fall from the final episode of "Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim" which rated 27.0% but considering the fact that the first episode of "Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim" was 9.5%, it's a hopeful figure.

On the first episode of "Defendant" was about Park Jeong-woo (Ji Seong) who was framed for murder and even lost his memory.

Meanwhile, KBS 2TV drama "Hwarang" rated 11.0% and MBC "Night Light" rated 4.1%.

Source : www.newsen.com/news_v...

Hancinema

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I liked how fast paced it was and it makes me excited to see what twists and turns are ahead because there has to be twists and turns given what we saw in Episode 1.

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6 hours ago, andy78 said:

REALLY?THEY BOUGHT SOOMPI FORUMS?I HAD NO IDEA!!!WHEN?

@andy78, it was part of the package deal when they bought Soompi.

Initially Soompi had bought Kdrama and added the Soompi TV.  Viki in turn and bought the whole thing from Soompi - forums and TV. They even announced it on their FB page at the time.  See articles below under spoiler tag.
 

5 hours ago, Hanyeoun said:

Please enlighten me with your theory. :) - I'm waiting


@Hanyeoun,  hi... :)    it is not a theory that they bought these forums. It is a fact. And if you go to most threads that have drama that is subbed by Viki, you will see the huge "Brought by Viki" banners.  These banners are not created by the Soompi member who started the thread, but by Viki. See articles about the purchase under spoiler tag.

Spoiler

Since they first announced this purchase over a year ago, almost a year and a half ago, I have been observing their behavior, in hope of understanding their motivation.

I initially thought they bought Soompi for the amazing old library of Kdrama, but since they essentially dumped the library - it was only reasonable to assume that they were after Soompi forums and also to destroy the competition.

They did not need the TV portion. They already had a Viki TV. The only thing they got out of buying Soompi TV is to destroy a competitor where we were able to watch Korean content (and subbed far faster than Viki). And of course, they got the forums, where they can send people to Viki, and also find out what their competition is doing from members' comments.
i.e. almost always after someone comments that DF licensed something, Viki goes and licenses it too. They have shown me that they have less interest in bringing us a variety of unique programs, than in making sure that they bring everything they can that DF licenses (unless DF licenses it with an exclusive).
 

 

5 hours ago, Berou said:

it's the first time i'm hearing this:mellow: 


@Berou, that they bought the forums? It was pretty publicized at the time of the purchase; Even Viki themselves announced it on FB. Articles under spoiler tags.

 

Spoiler

Everyone was celebrating. I was the only one in mourning, because I liked having several options where to watch my Korean content. At the time, I was not even thinking of the forums. But as I have been observing their behavior since then, I realize how essential the forums are to them, in keeping them in the know about what their competition is doing.

https://techcrunch.com/2015/08/20/global-video-service-viki-buys-soompi-a-fan-site-for-korean-dramas-in-sub-10m-deal/


http://variety.com/2015/digital/asia/viki-buys-korean-fan-community-soompi-from-peter-chernins-crunchyroll-1201573172/

 

5 hours ago, Kasmic said:

To have CSH die so quickly WOW and without giving us more information on his life :crazy: Really? Im not one whom complains about a plot but seriously Im kindof disappointed. Will they give us some flashback scenes here and there to make up for it? Ok so CMH has the motive to kill but where is the reason? I guess this will be slowly panned out as the drama airs and keeping me in total suspense. :o


@Kasmic, I think/hope they will have plenty of flashbacks. Otherwise what is the point of having Uhm Ki-Joon in a double role, if they only show both characters in ep. 1?

I am very intrigued by the plot, and how will Park Jung-Woo able to prove his innocence and also find out about his wife and daughter (praying they are alive).
What a nightmare that was to wake up in prison after the warm and fuzzy dream about them. Ji Sung is one amazing actor for sure. All his anguish written all over his face.

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4 hours ago, Chi Le said:

i never watch uhm ki joon either.


@Chi Le, @Kasmic, I have seen her in a couple of drama where she played an antagonist, pretty well - I might add. (House of Bluebird, The Greatest Wedding, and daily Mother's Garden - which I dropped.) She is also in "The Good Wife" which is on my to watch list.
 

4 hours ago, xxbitter_divinexx said:

Spoiler below is summary of villain roles of UKJ from 2012

ooooh.... @xxbitter_divinexx, Thank you very much for this. I will pursue his other projects after this drama is completed. I love drama with well acted villains/antagonists.
Thank you also for the video from ICHYV. I have seen the drama, but did not remember him.  And I love love your gifs. Thank you very much.

@MAROSA_JIN Thank you for the article and ratings info....!


 

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I am so pleased that Ep 1 has shown such promising ratings and wow, this drama is at No.1 for that time slot! Last evening Defendant was trending at top 3 on Naver and as of this morning, it is still trending. From the comments on Naver, SK audience are very impressed with JS' (as always for me haha...) and UKJ's acting. I have not watched Ep 1 yet as I'm waiting for the Eng sub to be out. Thank you @andy78 for your recaps and chingus here for all the updates!

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14 hours ago, andy78 said:

SAD PREVIEW ...

JW KNOWS THE TRUTH...SH TOLD HIM BEFORE HIS HEART STOPPED...KNOWS WAS SH THE ONE THAT DIED

MH IS MAD

WE SEE JW BEEING ARRESTED...HIS FAMILLY WAS KILLED AND HE WAS FRAMED...CHA MH DID IT TO COVER HIS MURDER...WE WILL HAVE A SCENE WITH HIS FUTURE LAWYER SEO ...THAT'S ALL FOR NOW

Thanks for the recaps :heart: I have not had a chance to watch w/subs yet. I like how they are using flashbacks in the story

@Kasmic Thanks for the screen cap/recap. Ji Sung looks so handsome.:wub:

@Chi Le 14.5%!! That's exciting I was wondering how it did in the ratings

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After having finished watching ep. 1 I have to say that Uhm Ki-Joon is pretty awesome in his portrayal of the two brothers, and especially chilling in his portrayal of the psychopath brother.

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Here he looked somewhat torn. Almost as if he could not believe what he has done.

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Here when he heard his brother calling his name...

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Please only 3 images per post, put the rest in spoiler tags
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SBS update,

im loving this drama so far, and im glad this drama gotten hit in Korea :wub:

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3 hours ago, irilight said:

@andy78, it was part of the package deal when they bought Soompi.

Initially Soompi had bought Kdrama and added the Soompi TV.  Viki in turn and bought the whole thing from Soompi - forums and TV. They even announced it on their FB page at the time.  See articles below under spoiler tag.
 


@Hanyeoun,  hi... :)    it is not a theory that they bought these forums. It is a fact. And if you go to most threads that have drama that is subbed by Viki, you will see the huge "Brought by Viki" banners.  These banners are not created by the Soompi member who started the thread, but by Viki. See articles about the purchase under spoiler tag.

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Since they first announced this purchase over a year ago, almost a year and a half ago, I have been observing their behavior, in hope of understanding their motivation.

I initially thought they bought Soompi for the amazing old library of Kdrama, but since they essentially dumped the library - it was only reasonable to assume that they were after Soompi forums and also to destroy the competition.

They did not need the TV portion. They already had a Viki TV. The only thing they got out of buying Soompi TV is to destroy a competitor where we were able to watch Korean content (and subbed far faster than Viki). And of course, they got the forums, where they can send people to Viki, and also find out what their competition is doing from members' comments.
i.e. almost always after someone comments that DF licensed something, Viki goes and licenses it too. They have shown me that they have less interest in bringing us a variety of unique programs, than in making sure that they bring everything they can that DF licenses (unless DF licenses it with an exclusive).
 

 

 

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FYI, we're still an independent entity from that company despite following the guidelines of business from Rakuten/Viki. The Soompi forums is still under the trademark of Soompi.

So Viki does not have creative content power over Soompi at all!

The situation is no different than our previous owner, Crunchyroll, except that we are able to expand our Korean content (Same business principle applies for Warner Bros acquiring Dramafever for that matter.)

I don't see the point of your rant - we have always allowed our members posting links to legal sites such as Viki, Dramafever, Crunchyroll, Viu, Amazon, On Demand Korea, Netflix or KBS World Channel on Youtube.

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@irilight. didnt know viki brought soompi.

havet seem the first episode yet but the high rating draw me. will go watch to see how good it is.

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7 hours ago, irilight said:

I want to remind everyone that since Viki had bought Soompi forums these are now officially Viki's Forums.  (in doubt? just watch for the huge "Presented by Viki" banners on Drama they bring to us.)

I highly suggest to NOT post here ANY other source for subs, even if it is legal;

Hello @irilight  Loved the first episode. I take it because he turn down that job offer it has something to do with framing him.. Just what is they trying to hide.. As always JS can nail those emotional scenes.. So heartbreaking..:dissapointed_relieved:

EVERYONE PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THE ABOVE POST.. WE DO HAVE SITES THAT SUB FOR US BUT DUE TO OTHERS THEY LIKE TO SHUT THEM DOWN TO TRY AND CONTROL OF WHAT WE CAN WATCH SUB.   SO PLEASE NO POSTING OF SUB SITES

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