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16 minutes ago, tuzicr said:

@artemis73 @nyota I was looking at flights, see screenshot from google below.

If ZZ flying from Shanghai (as he did the shooting in Suzhou, which is very close to Shanghai, lets assume his departure airport is Shanghai.

Based on the information all the flights arrive at Charles de Gaulle.

But i have no clue which flight ZZ would choose! if he wants to "entertain" fans in Pudong, he probably wouldnt opt for the midnight flights. On the other hand, taking the later flights will get him quite late arrival to France and if JY is coming, ZZ probably would like to be there early :rolleyes:

 

this is prinstcreen from CDG airport official webpage, arrivals 23-June. Looks like all the flights shared among the airlines.

 

anybody got any more info?

I did the same but came to no conclusion either :/ But your reasoning is plausible. So as you said and in accordance with the screenshots he will either arrive early in the morning or in the afternoon/evening. If we don't get any further information I think the decision lies with @artemis73Waiting for three hours at the airport sucks but this way you could cover the flights at 16:30 and 19:15. Being at the airport at 5:40am is another thing.

Maybe it's easier to find out at what time he's departing from Shanghai? Does this work with the time difference? I'm not good at calculating this, I need your help @tuzicr :) There are probably Chinese fans who'll wait for him at the airport. We have to keep an eye open on weibo/ig/tumblr/twitter etc. My guess is that he'll be leaving in the morning but that might be to some part be wishful thinking as a CPF :D 

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2 minutes ago, nyota said:

I did the same but came to no conclusion either :/ But your reasoning is plausible. So as you said and in accordance with the screenshots he will either arrive early in the morning or in the afternoon/evening. If we don't get any further information I think the decision lies with @artemis73Waiting for three hours at the airport sucks but this way you could cover the flights at 16:30 and 19:15. Being at the airport at 5:40am is another thing.

Maybe it's easier to find out at what time he's departing from Shanghai? Does this work with the time difference? I'm not good at calculating this, I need your help @tuzicr :) There are probably Chinese fans who'll wait for him at the airport. We have to keep an eye open on weibo/ig/tumblr/twitter etc. My guess is that he'll be leaving in the morning but that might be to some part be wishful thinking as a CPF :D 

i was just thinking that theoretically the departure gives us the advantage. the flight times are local. right now its 21:30 in china, 15:30 in paris. sooo, if the flight is around midnight, that would be 6pm in paris.

i have never flew via paris, so i have no idea about the airport itself.

in general it can easily be up to an hour after the plane touchdown to get to the arriving area where fans can wait. with "normal" chinese, the customs officials like to check the paperwork thoroughly, might ask questions. with celebrities, i have no clue. also flying first/business class get priorities - fast track lines.

now, i start stressing out! :lol:

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57 minutes ago, tuzicr said:

i was just thinking that theoretically the departure gives us the advantage. the flight times are local. right now its 21:30 in china, 15:30 in paris. sooo, if the flight is around midnight, that would be 6pm in paris.

After our first paper in social sciences (I think we could classify it as one) we're now turning over to logic and mathematics :lol: This fandom really is tough on heart and brain! hahaha

 

57 minutes ago, tuzicr said:

i have never flew via paris, so i have no idea about the airport itself.

Me neither but maybe @artemis73 is more familiar with it?

 

57 minutes ago, tuzicr said:

in general it can easily be up to an hour after the plane touchdown to get to the arriving area where fans can wait. with "normal" chinese, the customs officials like to check the paperwork thoroughly, might ask questions. with celebrities, i have no clue. also flying first/business class get priorities - fast track lines.

But this doesn't affect us this much, does it? It'd be bad if he uses some kind of VIP exit. Even if the planes in the afternoon arrive at different terminals it's still possible to make it in time I think. Of course it's really nerve-stretching if everything is unsure and you have to wait :( 

 

57 minutes ago, tuzicr said:

now, i start stressing out! :lol:

Don't stress yourself, we can do this! :) Team YZ Europe's first mission! :D

 

P.S.: I don't know how much longer I can be online on soompi. I've only limited WiFi access atm (soompi doesn't work with mobile data for me, don't know why).

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35 minutes ago, nyota said:

But this doesn't affect us this much, does it? It'd be bad if he uses some kind of VIP exit. Even if the planes in the afternoon arrive at different terminals it's still possible to make it in time I think. Of course it's really nerve-stretching if everything is unsure and you have to wait :( 

just extra waiting time, but on the other hand good if any last minute changes of position required, it give us extra breathing space :)

i really hope there will be some group of fans, so its easy to spot and recognize them, yet not too many to have a chance to get within a reasonable distance. :unsure:

38 minutes ago, nyota said:

Don't stress yourself, we can do this! :) Team YZ Europe's first mission! :D

haha, thats true :lol: soon, our team will be better than Mission Impossible crew. right now, @artemis73 is tom cruise/ethan hunt and we are simon pegg/benji dunn  :D

41 minutes ago, nyota said:

P.S.: I don't know how much longer I can be online on soompi. I've only limited WiFi access atm (soompi doesn't work with mobile data for me, don't know why).

i will try my best not to fall asleep here :ph34r::D

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2 hours ago, tuzicr said:

@ artemis73 @nyota Je regardais les vols, voir capture d'écran de google ci-dessous.

Si ZZ s'envole de Shanghai (comme il l'a fait à Suzhou, qui est très proche de Shanghai, supposons que son aéroport de départ soit Shanghai.

Sur la base des informations, tous les vols arrivent à Charles de Gaulle.

Mais je n'ai aucune idée du choix du vol ZZ! S'il veut "divertir" les fans de Pudong, il ne choisira probablement pas les vols de minuit. D'un autre côté, prendre les vols suivants lui permettra d'arriver assez tard en France et si JY arrive, ZZ voudra probablement être là tôt:rouler des yeux:

 

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ceci est prinstcreen de la page Web officielle de l'aéroport de CDG, arrivées 23-Juin. On dirait que tous les vols partagés entre les compagnies aériennes.

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Quelqu'un a-t-il plus d'infos?

12 hours of flight. This give me a safety margin. I have the time to go to the airport

 

Have you an idea when JY will be here ?

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1 hour ago, tuzicr said:

i really hope there will be some group of fans, so its easy to spot and recognize them, yet not too many to have a chance to get within a reasonable distance. :unsure:

2 hours ago, nyota said:

I hope so too. Afterwards we can directly recruit them for our team :D

 

1 hour ago, tuzicr said:

haha, thats true :lol: soon, our team will be better than Mission Impossible crew. right now, @artemis73 is tom cruise/ethan hunt and we are simon pegg/benji dunn  :D

hahaha right. But we won't steal ZZ (maybe) ;)

 

1 hour ago, tuzicr said:

i will try my best not to fall asleep here :ph34r::D

It's fine, save your strength :) We'll continue to work out a plan :) 

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59 minutes ago, artemis73 said:

Have you an idea when JY will be here ? 

no clue :crazy:

JY posted a pic on instagram, i think that could be a diversion tactic :D maybe he is already in paris? :blink:

45 minutes ago, nyota said:

It's fine, save your strength :) We'll continue to work out a plan :) 

thanks, then China Tower is out ^_^

will check tomorrow morning what is our status. good luck to us all! :wub::wub:

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Ok, so i am going to report the results of my search for info etc for @artemis73, which is actually a whole lot of nothing.. 
 

Spoiler

 

I actually messaged lion sis, but i don't know whether its because she was already in the Netherlands to see JY or just because my reputation as a CPF isn't well known enough or whatever, she has not replied to me yet. I asked if she was going there, mentioned that artemis73 is a CPF from France that would like to go see JY and ZZ, thanked her if she had any info to share. But nothing.. There's another issue that might have complicated things since i unknowingly used the term "dog" in there which meant "follow" to me, as in follow JY and ZZ which a lot of fans normally use as some kind of fandom term. But it also kind of implies a really "dogged" pursuit, maybe she just thought i was being fanatical..

 

This brings me to my second attempt at getting info for artemis73, which was to post on the YZ supertopic on weibo and ask if there are any CPF who will be going to paris as i know of a CPF from france who would like a partner to go with and if they know of any information about JY or ZZ's schedule please share. 

 

What i got was a bunch of half serious, half naughty comments from CPF saying that we should let JY and ZZ have their time together, don't bother them, they need to "fight each other" (in bed probably lol), requests to not dog them too much. Because, this was something i almost forgot/overlooked in my attempt to find info, this is not a normal fashion week where everyone is looking forward to seeing JY or ZZ there.........

 

This is a fashion week where both JY and ZZ will appear in the same city and attend nearly the same events at different locations in the city (although it will be different days)..................... So it's a big deal and instead of wanting to get more fan pics/cams i guess they are trying to protect the two of them/let them have their time together in anonymity (and let's be honest, hear about it after everything is all over).  Granted.. The element of hypocrisy here is that certain CPF, for example lion sis etc will be there in paris to see them. It's just that they probably don't trust "unknown" fans like us to "respectfully" maintain our distance. 

 

This would have been more easily solved if lion sis just responded so she could share the wisdom and proper method of seeing the both of them lol. But really in my response to those comments on my post, i just told ppl that i used the wrong term, i just meant that artemis73 would like to "see" JY or ZZ not dog them and the intention is to see them in public venues like the fashion show where everyone is already seeing them and doesn't infringe on their privacy.

 

I rebutted them slightly by saying most fans from western countries aren't that fanatical anyways, cause really they were just thinking to the extreme of how *they* might follow them around. When frankly speaking it wouldn't even occur to most ppl in western countries to do the stuff that a lot of asian fans have been doing.. Now i really want to facepalm. Like the concept of privacy is different anyways, if artemis73 goes she's only going to go to the main venues that the media will already be at barring the airport. And if they want to keep the airport landing a secret well, i think that it will be hard because only fans might be there too and its still a public area. God, i'm feeling the cultural difference here and technically i have a foot in both cultures.

 

I just didn't convey myself to them properly and it's probably some weird hierarchical trust issue in the fandom. Damage being done already, i think i will cut my losses and not attempt to correct my post and try again. I admit i am slightly annoyed at not getting a response from lion sis, but that's ok she will not be on my list of big shot CPF to contact in the future lol (she's going on my black list LOL). There are other ones too, but at the moment let's just go by what we hear ourselves because the fact that they're going to be in paris around the same time is a big deal and the CPF may be all up in arms about the events of that day if they don't know who i or artemis73 are. Personally i think its a lot of mumbo jumbo considering how even chinese CPF are not guaranteed to all be good and abiding as can be seen by various issues that came up just last week. 

 

 

Sorry @artemis73 i think maybe since we won't know the venue for the fashion shows that far in advance the airport is going to be your best bet. Like i know there is a whole thing about letting them be alone and possibly meet without any evidence etc. But their landing into the country is not going to be the biggest sign of them possibly meeting. AND even if there was some huge candy, which i DOUBT, do as other CPF have done before, don't take "incriminating" pics and don't even hint at anything until way after they are both back in china and no public posts for everyone to see. Frankly speaking, CPF want to hear if anything big did happen, just as long as its safe to hear afterwards. And yeah once again i doubt there will be any stumbling on any candy of any sort because if you do go you will only be there to see them at 2 possible locations the airport and the fashion show.

 

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22 minutes ago, artemis73 said:

Je tente ma chance

Ok my french is non existent, but i'm going to interpret it as "i'll take my chances". :lol:

 

Did you mean you'll go with the only fan? I think that's not a problem, as long as they don't get mad at you for being a CPF/YZ fan, then it's the same as going with another YZ fan/CPF.

 

You have a right to go see them too, as long as you're respecting their privacy. I think you will meet other CPF there too. Let us know what happens ok? Fan cams and pics please! :lol::heart:

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21 hours ago, nyota said:

Our fourth musketeer! :) I'm from Germany as well! I thought you were from Russia because your first post was in Russian :)

I don't know any CPF/bz/hjt here either. I guess it's also because Asian dramas aren't that popular in Germany (yet). At least I don't know anyone who's into them besides me :lol: I once binge watched Addicted with my bf and he really liked it but it didn't make a CPF out of him (not sure if I want him to be one either lol).

But more the reason for us to start Team YZ Europe! ^ _ ^

Hey!!! Yes, I am from Russia, but I have been living in Germany for 20 years. and I support the idea about Team YZ Europe!))))))

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44 minutes ago, artemis73 said:

I am alone and I don't know if I chose the right (good) airport.

Hope you get to see him!!!!!!! Good luck!!!!! 

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1 hour ago, crystalclear18 said:

Ok my french is non existent, but i'm going to interpret it as "i'll take my chances". :lol:

 

Did you mean you'll go with the only fan? I think that's not a problem, as long as they don't get mad at you for being a CPF/YZ fan, then it's the same as going with another YZ fan/CPF.

 

You have a right to go see them too, as long as you're respecting their privacy. I think you will meet other CPF there too. Let us know what happens ok? Fan cams and pics please! :lol::heart:

Orly is an airport in Paris. There are 3 iParis airports. I hope she chose the right one

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7 minutes ago, olgakim70 said:

Orly is an airport in Paris. There are 3 iParis airports. I hope she chose the right one

Yeah i totally misunderstood before. :lol::lol: Man i hope she picks the good one. JY seriously.. Go to Orly!!!!

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Just to follow up on my previous post about the CPF, they just mean not to stalk JY or ZZ in case they have their own private plans etc, LOL. Honestly i don't think we will see them together, if we just see them at their publicized events nothing will happen. This is just CPF joking around and being overly sensitive. Just have to think about the likelihood of them appearing at the same event and you know it won't happen. As long as no one stalks the two of them when they are on their own private business everything else is fine.

 

They're just joking mostly, cause they love to joke as a way to imply that there's something going on between them. The only thing is my request was a serious request for the sake of someone else lol... So i wasn't as amused. 

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8 minutes ago, crystalclear18 said:

Yeah i totally misunderstood before. :lol::lol: Man i hope she picks the good one. JY seriously.. Go to Orly!!!!

I think, JY is already in Paris. And yes,  There are flights From Amsterdam to Paris Orly

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