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@Starlitelet You might be right about everything, but the only thing I know is that okay, maybe KT knew Esther was Shunji's first love, but when he shot MD he didn't know who it was, and I don't think he knows that Esther = MD yet, so even thought Esther is Shunji's first love, I think KT was more disturbed by the fact that he just shot HIS first love, not Shunji's.. 
Softy posted the written preview for episode 7 at the begining of episode 6 recap and I like what I see. 

Preview ep 7: Gaksital unexpectedly drops by the Jongno Police Station to attack Kenji with his iron bamboo flute! Shunji draws his sword and run towards Gaksital! Gaksital runs away on a horse in order to avoid Shunji’s attack, but loses consciousness when Shunji shoots him with his gun, sending him tumbling off the cliff into the valley below. Mokdan can’t believe that Gaksital is dead and keeps wandering around the valley where Gaksital fell. In the waters there, she finds her knife.
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If MD finds her knife where she thinks Gaksital dissapeared, she might make the connection between him and KT, or at least a suspicion since KT is the one who as her knife. Or maybe she's going to confirm her idea that Gaksital is the young master and try to discover his identity even more and we all know that young master = KT... CAN'T WAIT!!!

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@Kennedy21: I don't know if I'm misunderstanding your point, but what I meant was that Shunji was shocked that Kang To shot his own first love, Boon Yi. Shunji thought that Kang To was bluffing and half-drunk when he said he was going to kill his (Kang To's) first love to gain Bridal Mask. Ironically, whatever indirect jinxing Kang To said to Shunji that night did happen after-all. So Shunji was mad at Kang To not because Kang To shot his Esther, but rather because he was shocked that his own friend didn't have humane feelings for the Boon Yi that he kept talking about. Like, Shunji thinks his friend is crazy. Of course, the audience knows that Mok Dan was in disguise, but I'm pretty sure Shunji didn't know the whole back-story to why Kang To shot Mok Dan.
I believe Shunji was able to connect the dots from the get-go when Kang To revealed that the girl he's after all this time is his first love, Boon Yi. Shunji then knew that Kang To was after his Esther because he was the one who saved Esther from Kang To. However, Shunji dismissed the thought of telling Kang To that it's his Esther, and that they both like the same girl. So now both Shunji and Kang To know that Mok Dan is their first love - haha. I hope I'm not confusing you even further ^^;.
Thanks for posting the translation for the preview. I honestly can't wait!

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No...... 
Back to episode 4:Shunji thought Kang-to knew that Mok Dan was Esther when Kang-to said he would still be willing to kill her (Mok Dan). 
Please read: http://www.dramabeans.com/2012/06/gaksital-episode-4/
Quote:He (Kang-to) starts to unload on Shunji. “The girl I have to kill… the girl I have to capture and use as bait to get Gaksital…” He looks up at Shunji, “What if she were your first love?” Oh, I love the twistiness of the line. He means it as a hypothetical question, as in, she’s MY first love, only he’s asking it like, what would you do if she were YOUR first love?

Only… she’s both.

Kang-to asked what if Mok Dan was Shunji's first love. He really meant, "what would you do in my shoes if she were your first love". The twist is that, she REALLY is also Shunji's first love, so he took it at face value. Shunji's interpretation of the question is that Kang-to found out Mok Dan was Esther. Shunji doesn't know anything about Kang-to's first love because Kang-to always thought she was long dead! Only Kang-to knows about Esther because Shunji told him. At that point, neither knew that it's the same girl. 
This explains why Shunji was horrified, thinking that even though Kang-to now knows Mok Dan is Esther (which he didn't), he was still willing to kill her.
Only in episode 5, read here: http://www.dramabeans.com/2012/06/gaksital-episode-5/
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Kang-to’s totally surprised at Shunji’s accusation, “You knew she was Esther and you shot her anyway!”

Shunji concedes that he knows how badly Kang-to wants to catch Gaksital, but this is Esther! “How could you know how I felt and still shoot her?” Shunji doesn’t reailze that Kang-to hadn’t until this very moment realized the love triangle connection.

NOW that Shunji says it out loud - THEN Kang-to now knows Mok Dan is BOTH Esther and Boon-yi. He understands now what Shunji misunderstood his statement in Episode 4. Shunji on the other hand only knows that Mok Dan is Esther. He knows Esther has someone who gave her the knife, but he had no idea what that story was about. And again, he never heard any similar story from Kang-to because Kang-to thought she was dead and never brought that up.
Mok Dan now knows that Shunji was the person she met years back, but she doesn't know about Kang-to yet. She suspects Gaksital is the Young Master (from 13 years ago - Lee Young), but she doesn't know who he is as an adult. It wasn't of course, because it was Kang-to's brother. But in the future it will become the truth. 
Hopefully this clears the confusion.

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^BINGO!!~ exactly what i want to say~ i love and hate both shunji and kangto for all different reasons but shunji def wasnt attacking kangto just bcoz he thinks kangto is heartless but its because he misunderstood kangto's statement~
kangto doesnt know that mokdan is esther,nor does shunji knows that mokdan is boonyi~(seriously i blame it all on the name!~ if she just had one name,this would not have happend at all!) kangto,though he have heard of esther from shunji,doesnt know that THE ESTHER is the mokdan he have been torturing all this while~and i dont even think that shunji knows theres such an existence as boonyi since boonyi is supposedly dead according to kangto,who just found out recently the girl he thought dead is actually alive and well under his torture~ 
ah ep 6 killed me,i killed my twitter feed on live viewing bcoz i was cursing,crying and all on twitter~ :(

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At above comment... if MD had only one name, she would most likely be dead. Her father is one of the leaders of the independence movement. Just like how KT and KS and the mother would have been long dead if they kept their original name. Koshikai is after anyone that knows about "the event" 13 years ago.

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@Kennedy21: I don't know if I'm misunderstanding your point, but what I meant was that Shunji was shocked that Kang To shot his own first love, Boon Yi. Shunji thought that Kang To was bluffing and half-drunk when he said he was going to kill his (Kang To's) first love to gain Bridal Mask. Ironically, whatever indirect jinxing Kang To said to Shunji that night did happen after-all. So Shunji was mad at Kang To not because Kang To shot his Esther, but rather because he was shocked that his own friend didn't have humane feelings for the Boon Yi that he kept talking about. Like, Shunji thinks his friend is crazy. Of course, the audience knows that Mok Dan was in disguise, but I'm pretty sure Shunji didn't know the whole back-story to why Kang To shot Mok Dan.


I believe Shunji was able to connect the dots from the get-go when Kang To revealed that the girl he's after all this time is his first love, Boon Yi. Shunji then knew that Kang To was after his Esther because he was the one who saved Esther from Kang To. However, Shunji dismissed the thought of telling Kang To that it's his Esther, and that they both like the same girl. So now both Shunji and Kang To know that Mok Dan is their first love - haha. I hope I'm not confusing you even further ^^;.


Thanks for posting the translation for the preview. I honestly can't wait!

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Hopefully I won't be spoiled to much when visiting this topic because I'm only at ep 2 right now and I like the series so far though it's still a bit confusing of course.

Now I was wondering something.. in the series they talk about 'Joseon People' but what do they mean exactly? I mean the drama is set in the 1930 and at that time the Joseon Dynasty was already over. Does that mean those people want the old system and classes back or? And Lee Kang To seems to be a joseon but his family is against it..and the joseon are against the normal Korean people and visa versa?!

Who can clear this up for me without spoiling?

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Dudie, Joseon people are the same thing as Korean people. People's love for Joseon is the same as wanting independence from the Japanese. Lee Kang-to serves as a policeman for the Japanese, therefore, his job is to tame his own Joseon/Korean people, not letting them go against the Japanese government. There is no dynasty at that time anymore, but the word Joseon is still widely used. There are only 2 sides: Japanese vs Korean/Joseon. Go read Dramabean's recaps if that helps.

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At above comment... if MD had only one name, she would most likely be dead. Her father is one of the leaders of the independence movement. Just like how KT and KS and the mother would have been long dead if they kept their original name. Koshikai is after anyone that knows about "the event" 13 years ago.


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KT's mom prolly wouldn't have died if she didn't run into that dudes gun. Shunji's bro didn't shoot her after the the count down was over and honestly he looked kinda shocked when she got shot. Which makes me wonder why the f' she jumped into his gun. 2 min later a dude comes and tells him that Bridal Mask attacked the bank car so he stops suspecting KT's brother at that moment anyways. 
KT's brother was shot and killed by KT right?
So when KT kills Shunji's brother in revenge it's weird cause his mom kinda shot herself and KT's the one that shot and killed his brother....
Now Shunji's brother did try to kill him a couple times so he prolly was right to kill him just off of that...but it made it seem like he was just venting his own blood lust.
It's also a little too convenient that the beautiful assassin girl also has a past incident with KT. Why is it always necessary to have some implausible/contrived back story. Why couldn't she just like the dude cause she thinks he's hot. The dude just randomly happened to stumble into a tea party and save her...lame.Speaking of that assassin girl though...she's hot as hell. I believe she's far better looking than the lead female. She was in the show "Hero" that came out this year right. I'm a big fan

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@ Dudie
I would probably use dramabeans after each episode instead of using these forums until you're caught up, it would ruin the suprises if you looked here in this thread.
http://www.dramabeans.com/tag/gaksital/


@ altinneen
The mother was probably convinced that Kenji was going to kill Kang-san either way so she did what she thought was the best way to protect her son. Her intuitions were proven a few scenes later between Kenji and Kasoi in the car when he said that he only wanted to kill the older brother and not the mother.

As much as I want to agree with you about the past between Rei and KT, it makes sense as part of her character that she would like him for that. At that point in her flashback, she was just a gisaeng without power and he came in to aid her without any thoughts of ramification. She was betrayed in the past and now probably has trust issues, but he helped her and she was truly humbled. She's used to guys hitting on her and he walked right by her without even looking at her episode 4. She fell for him hard.

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KT's mom prolly wouldn't have died if she didn't run into that dudes gun. Shunji's bro didn't shoot her after the the count down was over and honestly he looked kinda shocked when she got shot. Which makes me wonder why the f' she jumped into his gun. 2 min later a dude comes and tells him that Bridal Mask attacked the bank car so he stops suspecting KT's brother at that moment anyways. 


KT's brother was shot and killed by KT right?


So when KT kills Shunji's brother in revenge it's weird cause his mom kinda shot herself and KT's the one that shot and killed his brother....


Now Shunji's brother did try to kill him a couple times so he prolly was right to kill him just off of that...but it made it seem like he was just venting his own blood lust.


It's also a little too convenient that the beautiful assassin girl also has a past incident with KT. Why is it always necessary to have some implausible/contrived back story. Why couldn't she just like the dude cause she thinks he's hot. The dude just randomly happened to stumble into a tea party and save her...lame.Speaking of that assassin girl though...she's hot as hell. I believe she's far better looking than the lead female. She was in the show "Hero" that came out this year right. I'm a big fan

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Hi Everyone,

Bridal Mask Episodes 5-6 English Soft-Sub Subtitles are out.


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Bridal Mask Episodes 5-6 English Subtitles is a Community Translated Subtitle (CTS) Project:-

  

URL: http://www.darksmurfsub.com/forum/index.php?/topic/4767-bridal-mask-2012/

 

Please visit the link for more information about the Community Translated Subtitle (CTS) Project. CTS Project is about FANS helping FANS for FAST SUBTITLE RELEASE! Enjoy!

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((( Episodes 01-06)))

"Bridal Mask (2012) Softsubs"

Subtitles brought to you by:...

"The Bridal Mask Team" ~

 

The softsubs are synced as labeled.

 

The individual RapidShare links for the softsubs...

KBS2.Bridal.Mask.E01.H264.720p-HANrel.EN.srt

KBS2.Bridal.Mask.E02.H264.720p-HANrel.EN.srt

KBS2.Bridal.Mask.E03.H264.720p-HANrel.EN.srt

KBS2.Bridal.Mask.E04.H264.720p-HANrel.EN.srt

KBS2.Bridal.Mask.E05.H264.720p-HANrel.EN.srt

KBS2.Bridal.Mask.E06.H264.720p-HANrel.EN.srt


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I don't think MD should be blamed for being too much of a damsel in distress. I mean she's just a young weak girl with no money, power, or education trying to rebel against the Japanese in a Japanese dominated world. Of course she'd be kicked and thrown around a few times, considering there are people willing to betray her for money. She's weak, physically yes, but she has a strong will, which I think, makes KT love her even more. If she were all independent and could manage everything on her own, then our Heroic KT wouldn't be needed anymore, honestly. I kinda LOVE the scenes when he cares sooo much for her well being.         Also, Shunji shouldn't be blamed either. I think the actor portrays him really really well - passive and a goody two shoes. First of all, he doesn't know KT is Gaksital, so it makes sense for him to go bonkers seeing him murder his brother. Even if he did know, I wouldnt blame him either. Family is family, even if they're evil or not, Shunji loves his family a lot too. Also, since KT never talked about his first love BY, it makes sense for Shunji to think that everything revolves around him, especially when he loves MD so much. Without Shunji expressively showing his love for MD, KT would not be so jealous, and he'd probably would never approach MD, and they'd never be together. END of the romance. Finally, JW's portrayal of KT is PHENOMENAL. I love how he's not afraid of looking ugly or crazy during the dramatic scenes. He's still hot though <333 Although I'm soo rooting for a KT-MD ending, I cant wait to see how his relationship with Rie will turn out. Her character is such a great mystery. She has a gorgeous style though.        Kudos to the actor who plays KS. He did a wonderful job too! I can't help but notice he always plays the BIG brother tragic role. like stairway to heaven  and cain and abel for examples. 

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@laydeebutterfly - I see you're here. Have we officially gone out of hiding? Haha. (This is my first post in years. *sigh*)

First off, hi to everyone on this thread. I'm loving this drama with every new episode, I'm not a fan of any the actors in the cast but I think I am now, especially Joowon, I have to admit that I only know him thru 1N2D. In any case, just as I am enjoying this show I'm likewise tickled pink with the way the conversations in this thread is running. It's as engaging as the series. Much appreciation goes to the people who take their time to share goodies about Gaksital! 

Anyway on to the commentary, the trajectory of this drama is yet to be seen and with all the recent plot movements I'm very amazed that the show was gutsy enough to kill both remaining family members of KT in one depressing episode. Well technically the mother died at the end of the previous one but that's just semantics. The mom's death took me by surprise though because I thought that at the end of the day KT would still need his support group to tackle his new found purpose - wearing the mask and taking over what KS has done so far. In hindsight though and I've spazzed about this previously, I guess this is where MD fill come in to play. She's his only surviving connection to his past. And I am betting that he will do everything in his power to protect this - his road to forgiveness will be a tough one but this proves that the writers still have a lot to cover since we are still in the pre-mature stages of the story. 
I know that Gaksital is supposed to be a fusion of the original manhwa and the other creation of the maker which makes this drama's ending open for discussion. I for one, can not wait for the next episode. 
Lastly, I hope this drama gets to have more love in the future, the soompi posts are not enough! Here's to helping this thread get more popular, GAKSITAAAAAL! 
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@cinnyangangel - I can feel your passion in the way you explained all those in the previous pages. Kudos. Doesn't Dramabeans make the most awesome recaps and compelling commentaries? I am grateful that they did decide to pick up this drama.  

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Sorry for my misunderstanding and confusion guys! Thanks for clearing it up @cinnyangel (:

KT's mom prolly wouldn't have died if she didn't run into that dudes gun. Shunji's bro didn't shoot her after the the count down was over and honestly he looked kinda shocked when she got shot. Which makes me wonder why the f' she jumped into his gun. 2 min later a dude comes and tells him that Bridal Mask attacked the bank car so he stops suspecting KT's brother at that moment anyways. 


KT's brother was shot and killed by KT right?


So when KT kills Shunji's brother in revenge it's weird cause his mom kinda shot herself and KT's the one that shot and killed his brother....


Now Shunji's brother did try to kill him a couple times so he prolly was right to kill him just off of that...but it made it seem like he was just venting his own blood lust.


It's also a little too convenient that the beautiful assassin girl also has a past incident with KT. Why is it always necessary to have some implausible/contrived back story. Why couldn't she just like the dude cause she thinks he's hot. The dude just randomly happened to stumble into a tea party and save her...lame.Speaking of that assassin girl though...she's hot as hell. I believe she's far better looking than the lead female. She was in the show "Hero" that came out this year right. I'm a big fan

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Dudie, Joseon people are the same thing as Korean people. People's love for Joseon is the same as wanting independence from the Japanese. Lee Kang-to serves as a policeman for the Japanese, therefore, his job is to tame his own Joseon/Korean people, not letting them go against the Japanese government. There is no dynasty at that time anymore, but the word Joseon is still widely used. There are only 2 sides: Japanese vs Korean/Joseon. Go read Dramabean's recaps if that helps.

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