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SaQaroz

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  1. Yes that's safer in this case. I thought it was official, it's been published on a usually reliable source on Facebook but I wouln't be surprised if it was fake news either.
  2. Not sure it's been posted already but the KK/Techno spin-off was confirmed today on Twitter! Still waiting to see how it's gonna turn between them in the actual show to decide how I feel about the news
  3. I can't judge the quality of the translation as I can't speak Thai but I was saying that even if Perth said exactly what the translation says, there is nothing wrong with it anyway.
  4. Even if the translation is bad quality, I don't see what's wrong with what he said anyway. He's an actor, when he kisses Saint, he simply does his job.He doesn't have to "feel" anything like - it's not his fault some fans seem to genuinely think he's in a couple with Saint just because their characters are.
  5. Kidnapping, tiying up and forcely kissing someone is more than being stupid. And it is originally rape and would have been clear on screen without ban. As for creative license, it's a cheap excuse when it comes to BL imho. I mean, let's be serious, Addicted is not exactly a piece of art and artistic license is made to skip mundane details from real life situations to make them look more exciting, not to condone rape cause everyone knows it makes the lead character so manly and attractive.
  6. Thank you for the information, I had no idea. I find it sad too that some fangirls (most maybe?) are only really interested in hot scenes. It's also why writers/directors don't care about whether or not there's violence, dubious consent or even blatant rape in a sex scene cause they know a huge part of the targeted audience won't even care as long as the guys involved are young, sexy and willing to do a lot of fan-service. However, I still think things won't stay that way forever. I've been watching Asian shows since I was a teenager and particularly in Chinese shows, I was already able to see that some things have changed. Some things which wouldn't have been such a big deal 10 years ago are not accepted anymore, or not perceived the same way anymore. And yes, I'm definitely waiting to see what the director has in store for KK/Techno! In hope he will make some significant changes to the infamous first night
  7. I have no doubt on that I just wish BL shows (and not only them) would make clear that i's extremely WRONG as there is no way you can be sure a drunk person consents to the sex.
  8. A girl got raped in toilets in my school too, by two guys of the same school. I knew one of them. We didn't see them for some months, then one day I saw him walking in the street. I learnt later that they had not been prosecuted, just reported to the scholl that had banished them for some time. This also happened in western Europe, in a so called developped country. Rapists uner 18 are never convicted anyway. Unfortunately, stories like these are numerous. It's why to see rapes being minimized always worries and saddens me. And I actually think it can be very damaging.
  9. But wasn't money invested in Addicted too? (that's a real question, I actually don't know the background of this show). As I said earlier, I don't think sponsors would be afraid to invest money in this kind of scenario as they probably don't see it as a rape. At worst, it's "ambiguous" (= exciting for a lot of people, and a lot of people = $$$$$$). I mean, it's not rape, but the sole fact that the writers though they had to have Ae trowing Pete at a locker door to make the scene hot and therefore please viewers speaks by itself when it comes to their business strategy
  10. Oh I know that, statistics for convicted rapist out of 100 rapes reported speak by themselves unfortunately. I agree with what you're saying here, but we were not talking in legal terms, or were we? I know there is absolutely 0 chance KK would be prosecuted for this as No would'nt report it anyway. Truth to be told, I don't even think Tar's was reported (I'd be surprised). This is not the question of either or not it would be easy to prosecute such a case, it is to ask yourself if it as indeed a rape or not. When you watch a show, you are the witness.You know what's happening (which obviously police, judges dont...unless they break the 4th wall ). And it's not because it would be impossible to prove in front of a court that it didn't happen, or that it's not a rape.
  11. Uh I'd like to believe that but how many sex scenes/scenarios with, at best, dubious consent, did we see in sponsorised, successfull BL shows?? Tee/Fuse is not exactly a great example to reassure me. The problem, in my eyes, is that many people (including BL writers) see rape only as a physically violent sexual assault, commited by someone who purposely wants to harm the victim. While rape is WAY more complex than that in reality and can happen in a lot of vatious contexts. This kind of rape is actually not even 5% rapes in my country. When someone is drunk, has sex and wakes up the next morning wih no memory and being horrified with what happened, it's difficult to claim they gave clear, real consent to sex.
  12. If they show the first night between KK and Techno the way it is written in the novel BUT address the obvious issue with it, I'll be more than happy. They are my favourite couple in the show, although it's in pending till we get that scene) but I won't support them if it comes accross as a rape. However, if the show labels it as rape and addresses wverything that's wrong about it, in that case that will be a good, much needed storyline. And I will be impressed in a positive way. ...Problem is I'm pretty sure that won't happen But let's wait and see, wait and see.. On a side note, you can have serious, mature content without depicting rapes, especially if it to dismiss it as drunken sex.
  13. Agree with everything! Especially with the fact that this attitude didn't fit Ae as we learnt to know him. He was litteraly treating Pete like a fragile thing in the first episodes (it was even a bit comical at this stage), it was not to throw him at a locker door and punch the next door in the following episode... And yes the way Pete's protest has been written/shown on screen was very clumsy to say the least.
  14. I don't think Ae's language is the problem here, the comment you replied to was referring to the way he behaves physically when he's frustated (and for no reason as he admits it himself afterwards on the top of things...weird scene). I wouldn't be able to comment on Ae's language anyway with my extemely poor thai
  15. I really hope they change the pacing too. In fact, I hope they will have sex in the next episode, then we can move to another storyline Episode 8 already kinda felt too long to me with all the interrupted moments (especially with these crap excuses every time). Felt a bit like a filler episode sometimes. Yeah I don't really know what writers planned for Techno/KK. In the 4 first episodes, it seemed like they were gonna get some screen time but then they disappeared for the 4 following episodes...Anyway, if they intend to keep their first night as it was written in the novel, I won't even watch the spin-off if it's ever made. I like KK's personnality too (so far). Yes, he schemes a lot but not in a harmful way and he sincerely cares for Techno. However, again, if the writers stick to the novel for their storyline, that will change the way I see him and there's no way I'll keep supporting such a character.
  16. Hahaha but why do you hate it? I'm the same! I like discuss/argue about things a lot! And I also have a literature background (I even was a literature teacher for a short time once). I wouldn't say I'm trying to change someone's mind though. I actually like when people don't agree with me but can defend their opinion with arguments. It often leads to very interesting conversations! But as most BL tend to carry the same stereotypes/tropes I find it a bit less stimulating to argue about the story. The social aspect of these tropes is very interesting however
  17. Haha now I want to know what weirder things you've seen in real life! As for the rest of your message, it's good thinking however I honestly think it's a personal interpretation as the novel/show is not meant to be that deep. Tin fits a huge shojo/bl stereotype : the rich, cold-hearted (or so it seems) arrogant guy that has a heavy background with treason etc. I mean just now I could think of at least 6 characters I know with the exact same treats. And I bet there's way more. I highly doubt the writer thought that much about Tin's pstchology when she created him. It's a kind of another trope for BL to have plot holes in the story and out of the blue kisses but Ae and Pete's story is well build up, with a good pacing and logicak progression. The first kiss happened at the exact right time. In comparison, Tin/Can's one felt like writers didn't really bother to put that much effort.
  18. I get that but is Tin/Can really written this way in the novel though? Surely there must be more to their story. I liked the punching scene but the kiss came out of nowhere for me. It's where you realise that you're really in the big BL fantasy world cause no way that would have happened in real life lol.
  19. Yeah I know. When I was a teenager, I used to read a lot of mangas, and that was already a big issue in a lot of shojo and bl/yaoi mangas (especially yaoi actually). I don't read much of these anymore so I don't know if it's still the same these days. But it was already freaking me out. And I know it's a trope but it's a creepy and even quite dangerous one socially speaking (BL novels are mostly read by young girls...what does it teach them about consent and even sex in general??). And rules are made to be changed ...Anyway, I'm living in hope, that's gonna be my motto here
  20. You noticed Yeaaaah I suppose I'm not as good BL fan material as others here lol. I just don't get that we can't have a good, sexy scene without some dubious behavior/consent in it. I mean the locker scene would have been great without throwing Pete against the door and ignoring his protesting afterwards. But I read the corresponding part in the novel and...well let's say it's actually better in the show Talking about the novel... I guess you're right, better to stay only for Ae and Pete! (And Pond). Even Tin and Can, the second main couple, are not getting much attention from writers (like this kiss scene?? Tin's behavior made no sense at all, even Lazy Subber was skeptical ). And Tum/Tar...zzzzz
  21. As for the episode, difficult to comment without the sub, but I'm under the impression not much happens really. And it's very focused on Pete/Ae, I mean even more than usual. I didn't get the Tin/Can scene either but that seemed very off synch for a first kiss. That should have happened in an episode featuring them a bit more imho. Doesn't look like there's much tension there. The scene with Pong and ChaAim was nice though.
  22. My high schools friends were sleeping around a lot too (and I was the odd woman too lol) but like Ae and Pete are quite ignorant about sex...come on, Ae was googling "how to have sex wit another guy" two days ago and he didn't even look at research results after all LOL. And most of the time, you start with your hands and your mouth before going straight for the big plan. And let's be honest, first times are rarely great, even with someone you love. So I don't really think Ae had Peter making loud noise while he was hard pounding no. I don't think they went all the way (in the show right, I don't know about the novel). I think the proper first time will be the scene teased in the trailer
  23. Preach. I have just 0 interest in Tum/Tar and if I judge by the comments on Facebook, it's not an uncommon situation in the fandom. What I know of their story just sounds boring and I'm pretty sure it won't be dealt with correctly anyway and I don't see any chemistry between the actors so far (I know we only got one scene they were together on screen ...but that was enough to make me yawn )
  24. No that I want to be the shooter here, but you're aware all women are different and make different noise when they cry or anything else...right ?
  25. I hadn't picked the irony, my bad But yes I agree with you on pretty much everything here except that I'm not good at "turning my brain off" sometimes. I still do it occasionally but with Addicted, I could't. I dropped it right away...but still fought some fans from time to time. Can't help it I remember all those comments being like "why can't I find a boyfriend like Gu Hai hiiiii" and that was freaking me out (still does). I know BL are fantasy but sexual abuse is not, unfortunately. And you just have to read some comments to realize that some people clearly can't tell the difference. Anyway, Ae is not at this stage so we should at least be happy about that I guess. I still want someone to say something about it at some point though and Ae to realize...I live in hope, right
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