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  1. While I do agree that Hana is in a much better environment now, it's not clear that Hana's mom was such a terrible mom. She simply did not have the resources to be a good parent. It was explained that she was homeless when she was young, and possibly mentally (or intellectually?) impaired. At the very least, she took Ha-Na with her when they escaped the dog farm after her husband killed her baby son. We don't know much about her, but I don't know if she's such a bad person who deserved to be murdered. Suk-Woo's mom (the boy that Woo-Kyung killed with her car). Yes, she was a terrible mom, but she obviously became one too young, and clearly didn't know how to take care of her kids. And after she was hit by a car, she showed some conscience and wept for Suk-Woo. And for whatever reason, Dr. Yoon decided to pay off her debts and allow "supervised visits" with her own daughter, which is apparently a healing thing for both of them. If the world was a more perfect place, there would be more social support for troubled families. Maybe Hana's mom could have been a better mom if she had some guidance and support. Maybe Suk-Woo's mom would not have neglected her kids if she had support as well. And if these families did not benefit from social support, maybe their children would have been removed from their homes and placed in care that was better for them, at least. And the parents should be prosecuted for their abuses. (I think that would have been the right solution for Sora and Hana.) Seeing so many sad and broken families really was painful to watch. Obviously the world is NOT perfect and whatever support or help they needed wasn't there for them. We have at least three children who were literally beaten to death by their parent (Siwan's sister, Hana's brother, and the original Se-Kyung) - so clearly, people who need help are not getting it. (And of course, you have the Hanul Center which is supposed to provide that sort of care, but was run by monsters.) *sigh* Anyway, I agree with you that the solution is law enforcement and the judicial system. And I don't think simply killing the abusive parent is the solution - at the very least because it doesn't help repair the damage - and of course, the very fact that murder is wrong, and killing as vengeance is not the solution.
  2. Aww, thanks for posting that. That warms my heart. Ma-Dol was a good guy. (I even thought he was going to be the one! I was wrong. )
  3. No offense taken at all! I hope I'm wrong too, honestly. I'm in denial. But I just keep getting this nagging feeling. It's... weird. I will be happy to be wrong.
  4. I think this is why I think it will be Ma-Dol. I know that it doesn't make logical sense. This drama's title is TOP STAR YOO-BAEK. K-drama rules dictate that he gets the girl. And all the hot moments are between Kang-Soon and YB. That almost-kiss in the shower? HAWT. The way she looked at him when she woke up in her attic? HAAWWWT. There is no sexual tension between her and Ma-Dol. When the villagers are rejoicing that they are getting married, she looked like she was being dragged to the gallows. So why do I think it will be Ma-Dol? I don't know. But I just do. I can't shake the feeling. Sorry I'm making everyone Just remember, I'm often wrong.
  5. Hello fellow Yoo-Baek fans! Happy 2019 to all! After a few weeks break from Yoo-Baek, I'm finally all caught up and... I just get this feeling that Yoo-Baek is not the endgame. I'm sorry to be a contrarian, but I just feel like Ma-Dol is a really strong contender. The steady one. Yoo-Baek and Kkang-Soon are infatuated with each other, but her infatuation is what will help her realize that Ma-Dol is a man and not an older brother anymore. And Yoo-Baek will have a renewed attitude towards his work, a more appreciative attitude towards life, and heal his relationship with his mother. This isn't what I want, but this is what I just think will happen. I don't know. I just... get this feeling.
  6. Yes, I agree. As a Korean speaker, I noticed that they mis-translated 지옥 on Viki. They should have just said "hell" instead of "pain" or "misery." This really isn't a common usage and both LEH and CWK were clearly talking about "hell." The only assumption I can make about the mis-translation is that maybe the translator felt that "hell" was kind of a curse-word and this was self-censorship. But otherwise, it's not an accurate translation of what they actually said.
  7. @loveseek630 you were right!! You really are the best detective ever!!! Anyway, I think the show is pretty brilliant that the answer really was the most obvious one, but kept everyone doubting and guessing at just about everyone who ever showed up on the screen. As far as whether Eun-Ho is just one of many "Red Cry's" remains to be seen. I don't know, I kind of feel like this part of the story's sort of been wrapped up. Eun-Ho had help setting up the internet stuff, with that doctor who murdered that mom first, then committed suicide, and I can believe that he carried out the other stuff on his own. (I could be wrong. I am a BAD detective, really I am, I always guess wrong.) Major kudos to the actor (Hak-Yeon!) for an amazing job. You *felt* how tortured he was by what has happened to him, and how warped he became by all that he has suffered. (In the last role I saw him in, in "Familiar Wife," he played a goofy, lighthearted character and he was very good at that, too!) (This poor boy. I was in tears all throughout the whole episode. When Eun-Ho said, "Why would my mom abandon me in such a beautiful place?" OMG, ALL the tears. And my brain doesn't even want to process the abuse actually happened to him. Too much.) I don't know what the next episodes will bring but I guess we will spend it unpacking just what is going on in Woo-Kyung's past. I can't wait to find out but I am also filled with dread because this show does not hold back in bringing the pain.
  8. Ha, I'm just joking. I guess we won't really know anything until the show is over. Still 5 more hours of show left... pain of waiting... delicious pain.
  9. You have solved the case, @loveseek630 ! You are the best detective!
  10. Thank you for posting those. I don't have the time to translate them in detail, but they both say similar things. It says that he was frustrated and apprehensive because "arrows of criticism" were pointed at the show from the very beginning due to the age difference. He thought about explaining it to the public, but they would only sound like excuses. He decided that the only solution was to do his best to show "truth" (or "sincerity") and the truth would eventually reach the audience. He felt that by the time the show ended, he, and the show, had succeeded in doing that, so he was happy. -- I miss you all! Happy New Year and I hope everyone has a happy, healthy, wonderful 2019!
  11. I agree that he is *something* just based on the actor's profile. His name is Joo Suk-Tae and he's been working for a while, but gained a lot of notice after playing a bad guy in "Prison Playbook." I remember thinking that based on who the actor is, he isn't someone who would have some psych sessions with Woo-Kyung and then just fade away. Something is going on with him. http://asianwiki.com/Joo_Suk-Tae This show is really making me suspect *everyone* and giving me no answers. It's really good in that way, but also it's torture! Speaking of interesting actors, I also want to give lot of credit to the actor who played Horrible Dog Farm Father of Ha-Na: http://asianwiki.com/Baek_Hyun-Jin He has been in many movies (I have seen some of them, but I don't remember seeing him) and only two dramas. He was really great in both dramas. He is very good at playing a total creep. I mean, he was truly chilling in this role, even before we knew what he did. That, and people who own dog farms are not to be trusted, or so I have learned from "Come and Hug Me."
  12. So the "original sin" was the villagers sacrificing an orphan to stop the famine. The orphan Lee Ji's s grudge and hatred was so strong that it lasted for centuries. She never knew that there was one person who was on her side, BaWooSae (acorn porridge woman). In order to save Lee Ji's soul, BaWooSae sacrificed his own immortality and doomed himself to centuries of punishment. Ok-Nam is an unwitting victim. She never knew what was happening to her or why. She just knows that she loves BaWooSae and she can't remember him or be with him, except for a brief period on earth when they were married. She lives on for 699 years, during which time she experienced her husband's death, her kids' deaths and reincarnation. (Jeom-Soon was reincarnated five times, she said.) What a bummer. I think it was a interesting story with potential for greatness. I wish that Ok-Nam had more agency or more participation in her fate during the entire story arc. Maybe she played a role in the final reconciliation and taught Lee Ji to forgive, but I don't know if the story did enough to make that point clear. In fact, I think the show should have focused in the epic nature of the overall arc, instead of focusing on the "who is the husband?" game. I think the most compelling relationship is obviously between Lee Ji and BaWooSae. They were each doomed to be reborn many times, each time living a difficult life (BaWooSae was destined to be poor, unable to find his true love, and Lee Ji is destined to have insomnia and nightmares). Maybe they always became friends in their human forms, but never knew why. It would have been kind of fun to see this, but... this show has a limited budget. But I did like the overall message - learning how to forgive - and I was genuinely moved when Professor Jeong went to visit his nun-mother and they held hands and cried, finally breaking the long cycle of his grudges. I feel like if the show really leaned in to the compelling parts of the story like this (and had more budget) this could have been great, like on the level of "Goblin." (I described the show to a friend this way: "Not as good as 'Goblin,' but way better than 'Bride of Habaek.' Money alone doesn't make a good show, after all.) The things that I enjoyed: - Kim Kim - His essential and elemental sweetness is so well-established. I'll never forget how he bought a flower to pin on his hair when other people started making fun of Ok-Nam. It was such a simple gesture, and yet so him. And he is so guileless and lovable, so I feel like the actor and writers did a good job creating this character. - Jeom-Soon - She's cute and brought the show's energy up whenever she was on screen. - The Immortal Trio - I know they didn't have many fans, but I still enjoyed their aggressively pointless antics. I usually don't watch shows like "Gag Concert" - because they seem "aggressively pointless" and I also don't get a lot of the cultural jokes. What I feel when I watch those shows is how "aggressive" they seem - as in, "You better laugh at this or else!" I mean, just a whole lot of screaming. Like, the louder I am, the funnier I am? So this trio was like a Gag Concert type humor transplanted into a K-drama, and ... I don't know, they were fine. I enjoyed them. All three actors really gave it their all. However, they really didn't have much to do in the story, did they? It looks like Ok-Nam is able to travel back and forth to the heavens now, but what about these three? Why was Master Goo banished to earth, anyway? Anyways... I shouldn't overthink it. - Geum's mom. She was funny. I have never seen this actress before, but I expect we will see more of her, playing the nosy neighbor type. - The overall whimsical nature of the show. There was so many moments that were just CUTE. - PPL works. I want to try Babeans Coffee the next time I visit Korea. Maybe they will have those funny names on the menu - "Deer's Tears, Dark Water, etc." - Professor Lee. Based on comments on Viki I read while I watched this show, viewers HATED this character, but I thought she was great. Sassy, foul-mouthed, and funny. - Gender fluidity. I loved that Lee Ji / Geomoon-seong loved Ok-Nam but they were both women. I loved that the sexy book Jeom-Soon wrote was about two men and their love. Etc. I loved that no one made a big deal about any of it. The things that I did not enjoy: - Gyeong-Sool. WHAT. I'll just pretend that he didn't exist, which is easy enough because he had nothing to do with anything. Was he part of the original webtoon? Why was he even there? Just to give Jeom Soon something to do? - Go Du-Shim. She is a legendary actress, and she was only there to play "old" Ok-Nam, then practically disappeared for the second half of the show, popping up just to remind the rest of us that Ok-Nam looks old to other people. What a waste of an amazing actress, but Moon Chae-Won was great, so I guess that's okay.
  13. It's not over yet, but this was quite a cute show. The emphasis on CUTE. I never felt very invested on *Who was the husband!* I felt very "que sera sera" about it. She will end up with whoever she is supposed to, so just enjoy the ride, I guess. Lee Ji and Ba Woo Sae, their background is pretty interesting. It was an epic bro-mance (or sis-mance) for eons. The story was a rather nice message, very suitable for a fairy tale. I don't think it took 16 episodes to tell this story, though - but I guess you can say the same of about 50% of K-dramas in existence, so ... *shrug* Ultimately, this was a nice re-interpretation of the old fairy tale, and I enjoyed all the actors and their performances. I loved that those ahjumma pajamas Kim Kim bought for Miss Fairy turned out to be the winged robe. It is this kind of whimsy that makes this story so cute. Moon Chae-Won is so amazing. She can make every line reading sound so intense and meaningful, even if the words she is saying are silly. I even enjoyed the "immortal trio" and their antics. I know most of you think that they are pointless, and I agree. You can even see the three actors just kind of giving up, or sort of laughing at themselves, no longer really caring about what nonsense they are saying. Despite all that, I think they're still amusing and cute. (The only truly unimportant character remains Kyung-Sool. What is he there for? Why does he exist?)
  14. I think this is worth watching. It's very grim, and this is not a genre that I usually enjoy. I only gave it a chance because of Kim Sun-Ah (of course). But the story is very well-crafted. It feels very well thought-out and it's very absorbing. I think it's very well-made - acting, directing, everything else - for what it is. I guess it remains to be seen whether they can sustain this quality until the end. I've seen too many shows that flub the ending, so I'm cautiously optimistic. But so far, it's very good.
  15. I really like the way that this drama is progressing. I am sad that they will have to separate, of course, but I like the attitude that he has about it. He is relentlessly positive and hopeful, and I think their relationship is *already* strong enough to weather the storms. It's so great that we, the audience can see that. These two haven't even kissed, but we can still know that they are both in it for the long haul. It's great. To wit, I am watching this with my husband, and this is his general reaction: During their time in Cuba: "This is SO cheesy. Middle-aged Ahjumma fantasy." *eyeroll* Sometime around Eps. 3-4: "Still very cheesy. But Bogum is selling it. He's copying my moves." *golf claps* End of Ep.6: "We are in a 'some' relationship." - My H: "OMG, did that just happen?" *stupid grin* By Ep. 7: "Squeee, is it Wednesday yet?"
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