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  1. @Razberry, I actually could have written your post because everything you said is exactly what I've done and felt. This is truly one of my favorite dramas. There are so many little small things I picked up on each time I rewatch it. There are also scenes where I wished the camera had focused more or given a little more backstory behind an action. For example, I would have loved it attention was given to the fact that each time Gu Tingye rescued Ming Lan, he always took her with him and not back to the group she was traveling with. When he rescued her from the pirates, he took only her back to his camp. When the funeral procession was attacked, he took her back to his army post, not back with the rest of the group. Even when he rescued her when delivering the decree, he made time to spend with he before leaving. He could have had and Shitou take her back home immediately, but he didn't. Gu Tingye wanted to take every opportunity to spend time with her. I also wish we had a little more camera time in ep 25 when after rescuing Minglan from the funeral procession chaos, Shitou arrived and he realized it was "Sixth Miss" at the army post having tea with Gu Tingye, he told him, "We are quite fated with Sixth Miss." The expression on Gu Tingye's face was hilarious--as if Shitou and exposed his secret in front of Minglan. I wish the camera had focused more on him. Just love this drama. I wish I could find another one just like it--good quality writing, with a love story behind it. @valerie savage, agree with you, each time I watch I see something new or I really get the humor that I missed the first time. The fact that he liked her years ago, only truly unfolds in the conversations he had with Minglan and with the guy she used to like. He told Minglan that he wanted to marry her after he rescued her from the pirates. However, when he's talking to her first love, we see that it was before that. He didn't want to come between them--he was determined to support them. I personally, think when he first joined their "school", he was intrigued in Minglan and wanted to know what she was thinking--he remembered how she was as a little girl when he let her win the arrow throw (he did the same thing again years later at the polo match). Her first love only saw the outer facade of her, Gu Tingye saw the deeper side of her. He wasn't surprised by anything she did, because he knew she was capable of so much.
  2. I'm late, but wanted to add mine. @Dhakra, Soo Jin is a woman I greatly admire too. This woman stood up for what was right even if it meant she would go to jail. She also demonstrated to the world that "mother" isn't necessary the person who gave birth to you, but it's the person who loves, cherishes, and protect you; willing to give up their life in order to protect you. There are two other women that are also sited with Soo Jin, Dong Yi and MingLan. If there is still anyone on this thread who have not watched Mother, Dong Yi, and The Story of Minglan, you are missing out on some of the best written, logically written, and very smart women with strong characters.
  3. @faithwalker, I too would love a sequel to see how the sisters are living. This has truly become one of my favorite dramas. In re-watching it, I pick up on little things that I missed before or maybe didn't really let it sink in. I was really surprised that Ming Lan's father decided to kill Molan's mother. At first I really didn't understand why she died or why he didn't morn her death. Re-watching it, I picked up on points I heard but didn't piece together. Ming Lan's father, as observed by Gu Ting Ye, "Loves a clean reputation more than his own wife and children." When Molan's mother plotted by having her daughter have an affair then went out and spread it in the streets, that was a huge strike against her. Then when he realized that she had used that same plot against him (a married man--he brought her home pregnant) and only wanted to be with him because he had money, he then decided that he wanted nothing else to do with her. He had his servant who was skilled at beating people to death but leave no real obvious signs to beat her in such a way that she would die. Molan's mother never told her about marrying for love, it was only about marrying for position--the higher the better. She also never told her to marry someone who will respect her. Molan looked at all those around her and knew the type of man she wanted, Gu Ting Ye also knew the type of husband he wanted to be and the woman he wanted to marry. I really could have used another 5 or more episodes. Truly love this drama.
  4. @nidcha202, I'm going to press onward. I'm hoping that I do have a change of heart regarding Secretary Kim. However, currently it's almost like he's the king incognito--he's giving the orders. The fact that he advised Ha Seon to severe his emotions towards the queen is a mute point now considering that he killed the real king. What is his plans for Ha Seon and the Queen's future--grown old together with no real marriage? Don't get me wrong--I want Ha Seon to be honest with the queen (surprised that she hasn't discovered it for herself). Then every K drama romance has to have their "separation". Looking forward to seeing the scene you mentioned. UPDATE 1 Episode 11: SMH.......the queen .... It's one thing if she loved the King, but she didn't. She didn't even want him touching her until he became a different person (Ha Seon). I can understand feeling deceived, but come on. She had to leave the palace? Isn't the queen supposed to care about the country too? Did she forget that he's the one who saved her father? She's only tried to kill herself two or three times-- for stupid reasons. I personally wanted to push her off the cliff myself...her life appears to have little value. UPDATE 2: Episode 14: One thing I cannot stand is the abuse of children. I will beat a stranger down if i see them abusing a child or an elderly person (i'm not talking about disciplining their child, but abuse). I was in a department store and saw a very young mother cussing/swearing at her small son, who couldn't have been no more than 2 years old. I had an out of body experience I found myself yelling at the mother about not speaking to her child that way (I came back to my senses--the stunned mother didn't say a word, but took her son's hand a walked away at a pace he could keep up with)--I did get looks of approval and thumbs up from those who had heard. I say this because when Secretary Kim, in an effort to get a confession from the Dowager Queen, talked about poisoning her son (her sweet son who loved his brother the king) and his last breath was for his mother--I wanted to reach through the TV and slap his face. If I knew my child had been killed, I would want to exact revenge too. She didn't even begin her plotting against the throne until her child was killed. Case of which came first--the chicken or the egg. The king was awful and deserving of death...the queen doesn't know that Ha Seon is the King. If the old King was alive, I would probably be cheering her efforts on to kill him. UPDATE 3: Episode 15: Sadly, although Secretary Kim pledged his loyalty to the King and even vowed with a bow to serve him, call me a harden heart, but the ending of ep 15 didn't move me, didn't fill me with regret or sorrow. No doubt, zero doubt, that Ha Seon is a much better king than his predecessors (father and son); however, with the help of Secretary Kim, the throne has been stolen. Since all the legitimate offsprings have perished, it's probably for the best that a man of the people has the throne.
  5. I'm playing catch up, so I'm now on episode 10. Still not feeling much in regards to the Secretary. He's so loyal to the real king--a bad/awful person still at this point, he was willing to let Ha Seon die--yeah, yeah, he didn't kill him personally, but he was willing to let the wild lions and dogs kill him. The secretary told Ha Seon that he too prayed (while he was trapped in the hole) that he would survive. I'm thinking as I heard that, "but I'm not going to do anything to ensure you survive." The person who should be the closest to the real king, Eunuch Jo, wept tears of joy when he found out that Ha Seon was still alive; even calling him "Your Majesty". He had seen in the time he was with Ha Seon that he really has a compassionate heart and desire to care for the people. He is the material of a real king. I think the bodyguard also sees the same quality. He's a skilled fighter, he even encourage Ha Seon to run far away because he didn't have the heart to kill him. Then we find out in ep 9 that Secretary LK is truly loyal to no one in my opinion. He wasn't really loyal to the King; instead in his own way he encouraged his bad behavior by silence. Knowing that he's the one that fed poison to the King's little brother just cemented that fact. Yes, I know the little prince had a plotting mother, but the King needed to handle the mother (Dowager Queen)--instead he killed the little brother who believed in him. The little boy ate with gusto because he knew that the Secretary was sent by his brother whom he trusted. The king died by the man he trusted. Ha Seon was left to die by Secretary LK with only thoughts of a prayer. Sadly, thinking that Secretary LK may die in a future episode is leaving me completely dry eyed....my feelings might change by the time I get to ep 15; somehow, I don't see that happening. When the king died, the only thing I felt sorry about was that he died the same way as his father and brother--no last dying happy thoughts...only fear and betrayal. I will not continue pressing onward. This drama sadly for me will definitely not be a re-watch....too dark and no real bright spots. Even the Queen smiling is no real bright spot because her character is blah in the sense that she really doesn't stand out.
  6. I absolutely love historical/period dramas. I'm only on episode 4 of The Crowned Clown and I'm waiting. This drama started so dark for me that I haven't for one second liked the real King. Only with the little insight I have at this point, it was easy to see that the King knew that his son was going to be manipulated and wanted him to protect his brother; however, it's also easy to see that the "bad" people had already gotten to the Crown Prince--he had a female personal servant working against him with Left State Minister Chi Soo; not to mention female assistant was playing "hand games" with the King. He was also addicted to drugs which also fed into his paranoia. After he killed his brother and was willing to kill anyone that spoke out against him--I absolutely dislike him and can't find an ounce of pity for him. Loved the fact that he was being haunted by his conscience of having killed his little brother. Maybe when he's clear of the drugs and hedonism, he may be someone I can pity...not at the moment. As of ep 4, I'm definitely not a fan of the King's/Ha Seon's secretary. Maybe he has a plan that hasn't unfolded at this moment, but he seems to be the worse because he's coming across as a doormat and really not protecting the interest of the king. He really doesn't help guide him, just sits back and let it happen. When the real King gave the order to execute the Queen's father, although he knew her father was being framed, he didn't try to dissuade or even warn the hot tempered young king that he was being manipulated. I was so glad that Ha Seon changed the order. Then there is the Queen Dowager. I don't know how I feel about her. I would want to kill the king too after he killed by baby. However, I don't want her trying to kill Ha Seon--the real King have at him, but not Ha Seon. The main problem with this kingdom is there truly is no real King or governing body worth it's salt. I'm hoping that Ha Seon is the person to make that change. Ha Seon was immediately smitten by the Queen, but at this point I'm wondering, "Why?" At this point her character is so bland and muted, I would love to see some spark out of her--tired of the, 'I'll kill myself to show you my sincerity'. All that being said, the absolutely darkest point for me was the brutal raping of Ha Seon's sister. This drama has been dark for 4 episodes with only two real lite moments (the "fight" scene between Ha Seon and the Secretary and when Ha Seon ran away after seeing the queen). Other than those two scenes the drama is heavy and the romance between the two at this point seems heavy (she's thinking he's the King and falling in love with a fake). I'm hoping the "Good people" begin to shine more as I continue my marathon of this drama, right now it's just dark. It also doesn't have the palace norms that I'm used to seeing in most historical dramas. Update: 2 writer peeves:
  7. I personally thought she did suffer. The writer made it known, by what her brother told her, that even though she got what she wanted, she still wasn't happy; and she wasn't. She only had a title, but no real love from her husband. He then betrayed her in the worse way--with the servants--slaves and then kicked her out. Each of the sisters in this drama reflected the personality of the "mother/grandmother" that raised them. Out of all of these, Molan had the poorest example. I felt sorry for her at the very end, glad that the writer had her realize the "having is not as good as the wanting".
  8. I have to agree with you about there being so much to unpack. It was during my second watch (I love this drama so much) that I realized how truly romantic this drama is. Now the conversations and meetings between TY and ML before their marriage take on new meaning. It's clear to see that he's always been intrigued by her. Every time that he's rescued her, he's never taken her back immediately, but instead he wanted to spend time with her. This is definitely on my favorite historical dramas rewatch list. I wish I could find another drama where both the leads are smart and intelligent. They are very good at outwitting the evil people.
  9. I'm so disappointed in how this drama ended. It was a lot of foolishness thrown into to end. What mother wouldn't feel horrible, life changing guilt after what they did to their own child? Not this mother---It's just too much. The bad people got payback, but it wasn't satisfying---it was disappointing.
  10. @triplem, this drama is tagged as Fantasy, Suspense, Romance. I actually think it should have been tagged as Comedy. Although it stared as more melodrama/suspense/romance, it's just comedy to me now. I don't know what to make of it. The fantasy tag must be in the fact that people once thought dead are not really dead. I'm surprised that the "crown" princess didn't come back to life. The whole royal family seems like a joke. I have to say that I think most of these actors should do more comedy because I find the comedic aspect of the drama funny. The actress who is stealing the show, hands down to me is Oh Ah Rin as little Ar Ri. I was so impressed with her acting, especially in ep 48 when she was talking to her crazy mother who had pushed her to the floor. I kept thinking this little girl is a superb actress because she stay focused the whole time. In regards to the romance aspect.................
  11. All I can say is this is a drama where you never doubted the love between the leads. Once they became a couple, they became a self-sacrificing couple for each other. Love, love, love this drama. On my rewatch list for sure.
  12. @Golden Flower, I had high hopes that the king was smart enough to see through the plot of those around him and that he and GTY were on the same page. In ep 67 or 68, GTY told Shitou that the ground had frozen and things were about to get bad. He asked Shitou if he was ready. Shitou told him that frozen ground was a good time for killing. So it appears that GTY has planned and determined an outcome--especially being an army strategist. Now I wonder if things are still going according to his plans? Is the king in he loop, or did he keep the king in the dark--the same way he did when he took the jade seal so the Dowager Empress couldn't get it? I'm hoping that those who lied will pay for their crimes. @UnniSarah, Hey chingu!! It's good to see you here. Could you or someone on the thread send me a PM where I can read this book? I've truly fell in love with this drama and it's on my rewatch list. I would love to read the book. Sometimes books give you more detailed information.
  13. @minglan1, For me, I think grandmother was not only a moral compass for ML, but she was also someone who gave her wisdom. It didn't take long for me to see that grandmother was able to punch back with her words alone. The same can be said for ML. Her in laws and others are constantly shocked by her wisdom for one so young. This wisdom is something she learned from grandmother and also from observing others. That's why she's so incredibly close to her grandmother--she's someone that she deeply admires. Both ML and her middle sister, who is the "legitimate" daughter, had the same fiery temple and had a hard time guarding their mouth when they were little. However, as adults, ML has surpassed her sister in wisdom and how to respond effectively in different situations. That's the kind of knowledge you gain from living. In a way, ML was sheltered from a lot, but she lived through and with her grandmother. Her grandmother gave her wisdom and knowledge.
  14. I have to admit that ML is my favorite female lead in a drama. I don't think of her as dangerous in the sense of someone who is unreasonable, but more as a person who lives by the code: "An eye for an eye" or "A life for a life". As a child, if she saw unfair behavior, she immediately called attention to it and so did her other sister. However, her grandmother taught her to be a proper lady, but ML's strong desire for revenge against those who killed her mother made her learn patience's and how to keep a secret---even from her grandmother. She pretended to not be that smart so others would let their guard down around her.
  15. @Katrina Abdul Talib, hello chingu!! It's been a long time. To be honest, I expected the father to still be grieving Molan's mothers death. He got over it fairly quickly. Molan does have a lot of pride and she's also very selfish. She only does things that make her happy with no regards to how it will impact everyone in the long run. When she was trying to get her brother to tell her about the poisoning of their grandmother, he told her that she will never be happy. She's so busy trying to compete against others that she can't enjoy her life. @m0us3y, No, I didn't get any sleep..... It was too addictive for me to stop. Thanks for the welcome!! I'm glad to be here. It's a great thread!
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