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  1. Hmm, it seems like maybe KW was lying about his rich background, otherwise why would he need money from EH? I think the thing about JW being his son is totally a lie though. Regardless of his looks, JW did inherit JH's musical ability. Plus I think JB reacts with such incredulity and chases after KW because she's shocked he would make up a story like that when they both know they never slept together. It's just another of EH's schemes. We learned a lot in ep. 7, but what's still mysterious is the murderer ahjumma and her relationship with EH. Why is she involved? What does her (dead?) son Bryan have to do with anything? As for the person who called her, I think it might be NM's friend the blonde girl who is trying to get revenge for NM. Looks like ahjumma is going to kidnap JW tomorrow? I wonder what the purpose of that is. @Mailelei This drama has 50 eps? I thought it was only 16 or 20. Everyone gives different info on this so I am very confused.
  2. I also thought it was weird that KW was fine with her calling him "yeobo" and having that huge wedding portrait up. There is more to this relationship than has been revealed. I think KW is definitely from a rich background since JB knew about that even back in their college days, but I'm not sure about EH. Since KW was talking to her father about business, it sounds like she is from a rich family as well, but is ahjumma actually her mother...? Maybe an illegitimate child? It's really hard to figure out what is going on here. I'm worried about HW as well, especially since we didn't see her in the preview. I think the thing about JW not being JH's biological son is an idea planted by EH in order to make JH suspicious of his wife. We know she is trying to break them apart although we don't know why. I tend to believe JB when she said she never slept with KW since she has always been an honest and straightforward person. I really like that aspect of her personality as well.
  3. That hospital gown that Marin is wearing (or at least I think it's a hospital gown) is actually the thing that struck me most from the preview. That will be her fourth accident or almost accident in the show so far. First the subway, then the car, the at the restaurant, and now another accident. So many times it is probably significant. What if Sojoon and Marin's connection is an ill fate and all these things are happening because they are not supposed to be together? That would explain his later disappearance. At this point, I don't think he would leave her over anything less important than a threat to her life, and even if they were to break up he wouldn't need to leave the country. Plus there was Kidoong's warning to break up with her for both their sakes. I'm pretty sure the disappearance is going to be some kind of noble idiocy. Also, if Ahjusshi is really Marin's father, maybe he also affects her fate and that is why he disappeared from her life? It's interesting that the same word "disappeared" is used for both Marin's father and future Sojoon. Maybe he was really on the subway that day (the clicking noise still hasn't been explained) and that is what caused the accident? On another subject, I don't know what Ahjusshi's deal is, but he is obviously not being honest with Director Kim. Pretending to be an investor and so forth - I'm actually surprised the director believed him so easily.
  4. I actually think the production team did take viewer opinion into account and that is the problem. Because fangirls went crazy over the king, they decided to add a loveline which was not in the original plan and which ended up being pretty squicky considering ON's birth secret. Of course that is just my speculation and I could be totally wrong, but regardless of whether or not it was planned from the beginning, I really wish they hadn't gone into incest territory. It would have been much better to see a sibling relationship develop between ON and the king. Although I also personally really disliked that ship (as a romantic ship), so I might be biased. Regarding ON's feelings for TW, they were shown earlier on in the drama; she just appeared to give up on them after TW went to the dark side or whatever. I stopped watching a while back, just following the thread to find out what happens, so I can't comment on whether the development makes sense or not. @necyhey_stv I agree that I would have preferred for ON not to be a secret royal. That makes it seem as though all her talent and so forth is due to her high birth, and propagates a classist worldview (especially since TW and JH are also from the nobility). The story would have been more meaningful to me if she had effected change as a commoner.
  5. @carmolita I saw a spoiler on viki that in the novel, I think the person Shi's mother slept with was actually the Fire King, because if she hadn't slept with him, it wouldn't even make sense for him to ask if Shi is his son. Shi's unusual powers might be due to his mother actually being from the Ice Flame Tribe. As for the black smoke, it hadn't occurred to me that it might be someone from the Ice Flame Tribe as well, but that makes sense. I think the black smoke started the war on purpose, either for revenge against both the Ice and Fire Tribes (maybe the Ice Flame Tribe was wiped out due to the previous war between Ice and Fire?), or because the war would provide an opportunity for him to come into power.
  6. After following this drama for so long, I think it finally lost me this week. Oknyeo's decision to cut ties with one of her oldest friends based on hearsay and speculation makes no sense, but if Tae-won really gave up on his lifelong revenge just like that and randomly became obsessed with power, then his character arc makes even less sense. For the sake of TW's character consistency I hope he is just pretending to side with the bad guys to further his revenge, but on the other hand that would make ON look pretty silly for taking all the bad stuff she heard about him at face value. This whole "Romeo and Juliet" thing is so contrived no matter how you slice it. I didn't even finish today's episode. I'll see what happens tomorrow, but if the writing doesn't improve, then I'm out.
  7. @mimi I actually don't find the king cute either. The whole thing with experiencing the life of the commoners for the first time with the girl has been done in soooo many kdramas I'm just bored with it. Nothing new to see. Actually I don't think romance is the strong point of this show since I'm not really having a lot of shippy feelings at all, with any of the multiple potential pairings. I agree that Oknyeo has been respected for her talents thus far, and it is using her brains and determination that she has gotten to where she is now. And I definitely appreciate that; I just hope the king gets over his crush quickly so that there isn't any doubt as to why he appoints her to her future role. @tw20127 I was rooting for the king at the beginning due to the points you mention. It would definitely be difficult for him to take control after his mother has held power for so many years, especially considering the Confucian emphasis on respect for parents. What I have a problem with is that he doesn't even seem to be making an effort anymore. He's just goofing around and indulging his personal wish to hang out with ON. It is probably a flaw in the writing, but right now I don't see any evidence that he will be a better ruler than the queen dowager. For me to start taking the king seriously he needs to do something other than just flirting with ON. And he has to do it for some other reason than to impress ON as well (so the salt contract doesn't count - and how the heck was he totally fine with promising an important military contract to a merchant group he knows nothing about, just because it would, in a very indirect way, help ON? Really questioning his judgment here). Unfortunately if he is in love with her, it does undermine her appointment to the Waejibu even if he is truly motivated only by respect for her talent. And I doubt the drama will go to that much trouble to make it clear his feelings play no role in the decision, considering the way they've depicted his character so far.
  8. I actually agree with all of you who are commenting negatively on Tae-won telling Oknyeo not to meet the king and her agreeing to it. Unfortunately, that is a very common trope in kdramas. The male lead(s) ordering the female lead(s) around happens all the time and for some reason they always go along with it - drives me crazy why they never point out that the guy has no right to tell them what to do (and that applies even if he is in fact her boyfriend or husband). I'm glad more people are noticing this and realizing it is not okay. The more specific situation happens a lot too, of a jealous guy ordering a girl not to meet other guys and the girl being happy because she takes it as a sign of his caring. Can't wait for these misogynistic tropes to die. However, unlike a lot of you, I'm even less happy with the king than with TW. He started out with the intent to help the people starving in the famine, and now he seems to have totally forgotten about that. The lovesick king who only cares about romance and not about doing his job is another of my most hated kdrama tropes. I was actually cheering for the queen when she manipulated him into staying in the palace. We were promised a political struggle as the king tries to take back power from the queen dowager, and I'd much rather see that than some silly love triangle. I would also rather see more of Ji-heon than the king, because I think his dilemma is interesting - his adoptive family wants him to marry into the family of the man who had his biological family killed, and I'm interested to see how he's going to get out of that. I also want to see more of TW's fraught relationship with his father and the battle of wits between Oknyeo and Jung Nan-jung. I'd like to see more of the female characters who are not villains or love rivals. I guess I'm the odd one out, but I have to say the romance is the least interesting part of the show for me. ETA: Forgot to say I will be very disappointed if the king decides to form the Waijibu and put ON in charge because he is in love with her. Heaven forbid a woman should succeed by making people respect her talents rather than because some guy finds her attractive.
  9. While we are trying to clear up the confusing points, there's one thing I've been wondering about, which is Yoon Wonhyung's attitude towards Taewon. Usually in Joseon-era dramas having a son is very important to noble families in order to carry on the family line or whatever, and concubines who produce sons tend to be given higher status. And yet YWH cares so little about TW that he's forgotten he even exists. Does he have other sons such that he can afford to ignore TW? Or is Jung Nanjung just that good at manipulation? Also, about the brim of the gats - is that something which is mandated by law? Otherwise I don't know how it could be enforced.
  10. It's sort of funny how they drew her looking all smiley and cheerful in her wanted posted.
  11. He might be arresting her because he thinks she has information about his grandfather (she's been accused of murdering him after all). I could be wrong, but my guess is that he entered the police bureau for similar reasons as Oknyeo did - to find out what happened to his biological parents and grandparents. A lot of people seem to want a love triangle, but I will have to be the voice of dissent on that subject. I would prefer if they made Shin-hye likeable and had two parallel lovelines. I wouldn't necessarily mind if he likes ON a bit at first, but I would rather they not drag it on too long as I find that kind of thing annoying. I'm kind of worried though that we're going to get him forced to marry an evil and scheming SH while pining after ON or something, which is a really overdone plotline imo and not one which I enjoy.
  12. Good point. It did occur to me that getting the Ming involved probably isn't a good idea. I've just gotten the impression so far that the Queen only cares about her own self-interest, and so is basically using Park Taesoo. But I would actually like it better if she asked for his help because she thought it was something he could agree to without betraying his principles, thereby killing two birds with one stone - getting rid of the letter and giving PTS a chance at freedom. I'm afraid to be too optimistic about her motives though.
  13. I just watched the subbed episode 5 and things are starting to get exciting. It's interesting that our heroine has a bit of a dark side, as we saw earlier when she had Taewon kill the gang boss, and again in this episode when she was willing to become an assassin. So far she's not interested in politics, and only cares about her personal goal of finding out her mother's story, which leads her to work for the bad guys at the moment. I suspect that she will only start caring about the bigger picture when she finds out that Lord Yoon was the one who had her mother killed. I'm disappointed in Park Taesoo, that he is willing to give up his principles for the sake of the Queen Dowager. Surely he doesn't believe her when she says the mission is important for the future of the nation? Or is he not aware of how much she's done to maintain herself in power? I agree with those who think he will probably die soon. Our heroine and hero will reunite tomorrow, but they are on opposite sides. I'm enjoying Taewon's story, and how he convinced the head merchant to go up against Jang Nanjung, although honestly I think his reason for revenge is a bit flimsy - it's not like she killed his mom, or even knew his mom existed as far as I can tell. But maybe there is more to be revealed there, idk. I'm also interested in how the romance will go, since he seems to have feelings for the gisaeng at the moment, and while he is showing care for Oknyeo in the preview, it seems to be only in a platonic way. So I'm curious as to how they will end up falling in love.
  14. In my opinion, although the romance has always been in the background in this drama, it was still always there, so I think it would be weird if they dropped it at the end and didn't have ODJ and NJG get together. I mean, compared to an ordinary romantic kdrama there wasn't much romance, but if you think about what this show would be like if there were no romance whatsoever, not even hints, it would be pretty different. I think this is just a more subtle and undramatic kind of romance than we usually see in kdramas. I wasn't sure in the beginning whether I wanted our two leads to end up together or not, but ultimately I think they did show why NJG is a better match for ODJ than any of the exes, and that is because they share the same values and outlook on life. ODJ can't stand any cheating or underhanded methods in the workplace, but First Ex was fine with working under Kim Sangmu and didn't really understand why ODJ couldn't just play the game like everyone else. He supported her in the end, but I'm not sure he ever understood her. Second Ex is sweet and harmless, but he is kind of frivolous due to being spoiled and seems to live just for his own pleasure. And of course we know that Third Ex thinks money is the only important thing and is fine with harming others for his own advantage. It just seems that there is a significant disconnect between the things that the three of them care about in life and what ODJ cares about, and that difference is why none of the marriages worked. NJG is the one who is on the same page as her, partially because he learned from her as his boss, and partially because he already had idealistic tendencies, but had just suppressed them in order to get by.
  15. You guys, the "not even 1% chance" refers to having an operation to remove the tumor. But that's something that Hye-soo's doctor already told her in episode 2 (that surgery is not an option in her situation). It's not new information. She still has a 30% chance of survival with the treatment she's doing. The production is just trying to keep up the suspense. No need to give up hope just yet!