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  1. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    I agree about the KJ part. She usually keeps a perfect poker face and partially did it in her conversation with Chief Na but it really throws me off when she's trying so adamantly to not look KW in the eyes. That's such a dead giveaway, she's not even trying to be subtle. Then again there might be a couple of reasons why she's doing that. For one, she's always been a straightforward person, as far as I remember from season 1, and she always confronted anyone and anything that bothered her upfront, so now she might be feeling not so great that she has to go and secretly investigate her current partner behind his back. Plus she believes that KW had sincerity and good will in dealing with the victims, she saw it, she heard it, she knows that he wasn't faking it, but she also understands that there might be a different side to KW that he himself might not be fully aware of. Basically, KJ is between a rock and a hard place right now. One thing I wanted to be done differently is her actually confronting KW with the pictures, the medicine, everything she gathered instead of secretly investigating. After her talk with Chief Na and after KW told her to ask him directly if there's something she's suspicious about, I would've preferred if she went like "Hey, here're the pictures and the killer's text, then there's medicine and the fact that you have violent tendencies but don't remember anything. How 'bout you explain." And after she gave him a chance to present his point of view, then she'd go and investigate the things that didn't add up. That's actually what I came to expect from KJ. The fact that she kind off ignored KW texts about the investigation was out of her character IMO. I've yet to watch episode 8 with subs but while watching RAW I had a thought that it would be better for my mental health to just watch last 4 episodes together. By the end of the episode I was exhausted trying to figure out if KW is or isn't the bad guy. I seriously hope that he isn't because I want our girl KJ to have at a normal partner and person she can safely confide in. I'm so sad that KJ is basically left all alone this season and doesn't have anyone to trust or simply talk to with JH being away. If only for that reason I want KW to not end up the bad guy, plus it would be an overkill to have so many psychopaths in one season. Like serious why is GTT surrounded by so many psychos - the killer, then his new accomplice from ep.8, then ES's ex boyfriend, a whole network of sick in the head people. Wouldn't it be too much if KW was also the bad guy? If he is then where's JH when you need him? Come back and do some a** kicking.
  2. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    4 episodes left and I don't think they'll catch the killer in this season. Hope I'm wrong, I really hate being left hanging like they did with Vampire Prosecutor. There's still so much to be done, 4 episode is not enough especially if we take into the account that they showed one of the killer's accomplices - another crazy psycho killer in the making. Too many bag guys and not enough time to catch them all. Edit: I've only now noticed that in one of the posters KJ is crying. I wonder why?
  3. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    I'm not sure if the killer started killing as a teenager but the gift box with the Japanese girl's ear was labelled - 1991.06.02 - Miho (ear). So he started collecting body parts years and years ago. His fridge had tens of gift boxes, like seriously very many gift boxes with body parts + today he killed his neighbour ajumma (took her tongue) and killed the guard, framing him for everything. What I don't get is how is possible for KW to know the little girl and the killer if the murder happened in 1991. That's crazy. The fact that the killer blamed the guard in this new murder makes me think that maybe that's what he's been doing for his many other murders. So maybe KW is a victim in all of this. At this point, I think that everyone is an unreliable narrator except for KJ. I don't even trust the flashbacks that they show, I'd rather only believe her and her only.
  4. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    An interesting thing from ep.8 - the Japanese girl KW saw was killed years ago. KW went to Japan in the past and Chief Na suspects him of killing her but at the end of the episode, they showed that the killer has that little girl's ear. Apparently, the killer said that the girl had enhanced hearing abilities just like KJ. So basically the killer killed the little girl, but KW thinks that he might have something to do with her death.
  5. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    I agree LHN is doing such a wonderful job, to me, there is no Voice without her. Love the picture with YSM, LHN aways has such a warm smile. I'd like quite a bit more focus on KJ's character. There weren't too many scenes with her in the last episode. I want more action for KJ since she's such an awesome character.
  6. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    Oh man, I couldn't agree more with everyone who's disappointed with the last episode. I'm usually a casual watcher and don't pay too much attention to minor mishaps but this episode was just so incredibly sloppy even for me. Everything from the first few seconds till the end of the zombie drug case was sloppy. I wonder if they have a very tight filming schedule that so many mistakes were present. 1. The beginning of the episode felt like a different drama. First, KW went into that secret basement/room that didn't have any windows (based on the lack of signal) then what the hell was with the lightning and thunder. The editing was ridiculous, that lighting effect was too fake and looked more like a faulty video. Then what the hell was that projected tape and some random Japanese little girl? Who's that, how is this even connected to KW, what's the deal about it all? Clearly, there was no projector in the room. Was that a manifestation of KW's blackouts? Then it's not a random blackout, it's a hallucination and he clearly isn't able to move while he's experiencing this. Still, that was so random I don't know what to think of it. What do you guys think? 2. Right after the officers found KW and he woke up, he informed the centre that they rescued two victims and are heading to the next crime scene - the bitten taxi driver. But no one told him that they found the second guy, his colleagues only informed him about the bitten taxi driver. 3. After receiving a text from the killer the first thing KJ needed to do was to ask the hacker boy to track the sender and check the phone. Even if it was a burner phone they need to check it first otherwise there's no way they'd know that. 4. The whole part about the super strong and super fast zombie girl was also quite ridiculous as others have already mentioned. It really bothered me that she had perfectly white teeth when they should've been covered with blood. Hopefully, the quality will go back to how it was before for the 8th episode. I really want KJ to take some time to think things over and not take KW's, Chief Na's or the killer's words at face value. I find it interesting that the more "evidence" they show that KW is the killer the more I have doubts about it. The pictures the killer sent to KJ where KW is seen fleeing the police station were clearly done by the killer himself. If that's the case, then the killer was at the police station and he could've gotten rid of the evidence before KW, while KW might've run there to stop him. The killer truly is a master manipulator, I love that he's smart, but a bit too smart for my liking. When a bag guy outsmarts a the team of heroes all the time it starts to get on my nerves.
  7. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    OCN just posted the recent BTS video, here it is. Lee Ha Na is such a cutie, I really like her. This was one of my favorite scenes from the last episode: What I also like is the contrast of KJ's home from the first and second season. In the first season, her home was her hideout, it was gloomy, dark and had a dark, heavy atmosphere, much like KW's now. It was a pleasant surprise to see how that has changed. When they showed her room in episode 6, it was so bright and the atmosphere was so light and calm. Hopefully, such a change will await KW as well.
  8. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    The written preview for the next episode is out and it does mention that the zombie girl is indeed a "zombie drug" addict. It also says that a picture will be revealed that the killer took on that boat years ago.
  9. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    I don't think it's anything supernatural. The zombie girl might've been forced to take a certain type of drug, that makes people act the way she did - like a zombie. There's this drug called flakka/bath salts/zombie drug that apparently make one act zombie-like. Here's an interesting article on the subject - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/flakka-what-is-it-florida-face-eating-attack-zombie-drug-austin-harrouff-a7195871.html
  10. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    Oooh, I had this thought as well, that the killer is a Frankenstein in the making. Otherwise it's unclear where he keeps all the body parts. And it does seem like the killer has special plans for KW. It's like he wants KW to take a central part in his twisted plan and blame him for everything, that's why he was so upset that KW was starting to get along with the team. Another interesting thing is that the killer's mom worked as a hostess in a bar or something, the neighbors even thought that she prostituted herself. Maybe that played a big part in forming the killer's twisted mind. I'd say that the key to understanding the psycho's motivations as well as the key to his demise is all his mom and her story. Mo Tae Gu became what he was partly because of his father, here we'll likely see how the mother, her job and how the people treated her and her son all contributed to shaping him. As a side note, I really enjoyed KW's and KJ's interaction in this episode. They were cute.
  11. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    That's how I see KW as well, at least for now. After watching the 6th episode though, I had this thought that it would be mindblowing if the killers accomplice in the Poongsan Violent Crimes unit is actually KW who just doesn't remember what he's doing. I wouldn't be all to happy if they went in that direction thought it would be crazy thrilling. They are pretty specific by saying that the accomplice works in the Violent Crimes unit, but if it's not NHS then there aren't that many suspects left. Actually I'm more suspicious of the detective that's been assigned to the GTT, who worked with NHS before. I feel like that guy is very quiet, reserved and tries not to stand out too much. I'm betting on him for now.
  12. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    Indeed the killer seemed to somewhat favour KW back then at the boat. He seemed to enjoy KW's anger. Maybe he found him to be similar in nature. KW was pretty open about his own hatred for criminals and that he had a hard time not harming them. That's something that we've also seen in episode 5 with Big Boss. So maybe the killer thought that KW was somewhat like him and that's why he was more lenient before KW dared to defy him. I also wondered how the partner ended up in that mess in the first place. Still have no idea though. Maybe he got money from the wrong person and the killer decided to get rid of him because he was a dirty cop, or maybe they were investigating something that eventually led them to the killer. I'm very curious about what happened back then. I must say that even though I enjoyed Mo Tae Gu as the serial killer in the first season, the psycho killer from this season is scarier on many fronts (props to Kwon Yul). First, he's a delusional but highly functional psycho. While he keeps the delusion about his mother being alive, he still acknowledges the fact that she's dead, because he keeps the door to her room locked. He has an abnormal obsession with human body parts. While Tae Gu collected the hair of his victims as trophies, this one has a crazy fetish. Just look at the pictures of body parts that are plastered on the walls of his basement. The scene where he met KJ was so disturbing to watch. He analyzed her face - eyes, nose lips and finally settled for her ears. So he basically went out of his way to meet her and decided what parts of her he wanted to collect. What's the scariest part is the fact that the GTT isn't just dealing with this psycho but with a whole network of like-minded messed up scum that the killer collected. It's scary because it reminds me of real life so much it's horrifying. I'm familiar with these sick communities as I've once worked with a team that tracked such communities and tried to get rid of them, but man does this ring true. The realization that your dealing with so many people and not just one criminal is difficult to swallow because they aren't connected with each other in the real world so it's difficult to track them all individually and the only thing they have in common is their messed up nature. That's why I find that the GTT is in more danger than in the first season. They have no idea when and who will strike them while they are tracking the mastermind.
  13. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    Additional details from ep.6:
  14. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    So what I gathered from episode 6...
  15. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    @titania1000 Thanks for posting the OST. I love love the song, it fits the mood of this season so well. The first season had very good OSTs as well. I really appreciate when dramas choose good OSTs that I can listen to even after the drama ends.
  16. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    An interesting point of view. I do think that DKW is sketchy and definitely has a skeleton or two in his closet but I'm still not sure how crazy he'll get or how scary is his secret. I'm very concerned about his nightmares. What the hell did he do in the past and what kind of medicine did he take? I perceived the scenes that you described a bit differently though. I don't think he used or tried to manipulate any of the golden time team members. In the scene with the paedophile, he actually stopped the officer from hitting the suspect which in turn saved him from being punished by his superiors. While DKW didn't do it to help that officer, he simply found a way to beat up the suspect without getting anyone in trouble. I don't blame him or the officers that turned a blind eye to his actions. In my opinion, it would be even more strange if they didn't want to beat him up because that scum deserves much worse. DKW seems to be the person who couldn't care less about what other people think of him, though at the same time he seems to be hurt by people thinking that he killed his colleague. He's a weird one for sure, but he doesn't strike me as a manipulative type. Plus he didn't protect KJ from the prosecutor, what he did is prevent her from spilling the beans about their investigation to an outsider. I thought that it was a smart move on his part. KJ was about to ask the prosecutor why he excluded the possibility of murder which in turn would've triggered the prosecutor to ask questions about it and, in the future, about their investigation as well. So DKW diffused the situation and even explained to KJ why he led her away. He was smart here because he knows that the killer is possibly a police officer or someone close in the police circle, so sharing their "secret" investigation info with basically a stranger was a potentially careless move on KJ's part. As for KJ, she's standing her ground just well. When DKW suggested to only focus on the psycho killer instead of keeping the golden time team, she refused firmly. She didn't even budge. Personally, I find KJ amazing this season. She seems so much stronger yet vulnerable at the same time. I love her, she's a sweetheart. I also don't think that DKW tried to manipulate KJ simply because of what he told her about himself - that he became a police officer to find out what kind of person he truly is. In my book, that screams suspicious and I was glad that Kwon Joo caught it too and has her doubts about him. That's smart on her part and stupid on his part if he was truly trying to manipulate her because then any sane cunning person would try to prevent being suspicious. I have my doubts about DKW but so far I'm not fully on board with branding him a villain. Forgot to add that I really like the way he treats KJ so far. After she proved her enhanced hearing ability, not once did he question her abilities or skills as a police officer. He treats her as an equal who received enough training to be able to protect herself and know how to handle situations. I love it. If it was a different drama, the male lead would've already doubted her professional skills because she's a woman or tried to protect her from everything. If he doesn't end up a bad guy then their partnership will go a long way because so far they have a great dynamic and work well as a team.
  17. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    I'm so scared for Kwon Joo. In the preview for ep.5 the killer said he wants to have her ears.
  18. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    So... in the second episode, two people made Kwon Joo promise to not get hurt while catching the killer, which makes me think that she will eventually get hurt. Don't know if they'll be brave enough to kill her off but whenever a character's safety gets discussed in a thriller drama that character always ends up getting hurt, that why I'm worried for her now. I wonder what the killer has against the Golden Time team? I also noticed that this season feels a lot softer and there's a lot of focus on the main characters and their feelings. The light classical music they used in this episode felt so out of place compared to what I'm used to hearing in Voice, a sort of cognitive dissonance is what I got there.
  19. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    Okay, so I finally watched the first episode with subs and I'm so happy how it turned out. It was a strong beginning. So in the first season, the killer collected his victims' hair, this season the killer collects body parts. I'm scared to think what the killer of the third season will collect. Full bodies maybe? What a weird upgrade we're getting with every season. Other than that, I like how this new killer is just a gruesome psycho. After the first season, I stumbled upon fanfics about "hot Mo Tae Gu" having a love line with Kwon Joo and many people worshipped him for being so alluring. Good thing they toned it down this season. Viewers being attracted to the killer is probably the last thing the writers wanted from the first season. Guess they learned from that past experience. I like the new Golden Time Team. The new hacker boy actually seems competent and I like how the police officers that where kind of dodgy in the first season are now on friendly terms with Kwon Joo. I was content with how they explained the absence of Jin Hyeok and Dae Shik, as well as how they cleared any suspicions about what happened with mo Tae Gu in the asylum. I also enjoyed the new character of Lee Jin Wook - Do Kang Woo. He's more cool-headed than Jin Hyeok, I think his dynamic with Kwon Joo will be very good. They seem more compatible, though I miss Jin Hyeok, he was a wild card.
  20. Honestly, this whole situation with the blind girl, her mom and the rules they have in the amusement park is very tricky. I don't fully agree that the manager was a hypocrite. They have such rules everywhere in the world and they weren't made just to ostracize the disabled because they are bothersome to deal with. Some of those rules do make sense regardless of how we view them. When it concerns the safety of all the passengers you need to choose the lesser evil. While this particular blind girl and her mother would be able to evacuate without problems, it doesn't guarantee that others with disabilities would be able to do the same. Plus it's not like they would be the only two people going down those stairs. Just imagine that everyone would panic and hurry down the stairs, hey might push the girl and the mom because they aren't going fast enough. In these situations, a lot can go wrong even for a perfectly healthy person. I feel very bad for the girl but I think some rules need to be in place for those more dangerous attractions. There are actually many different restrictions not only for the disabled, for example, height, age and weight restrictions. They are all pretty degrading and disappointing for the people being restricted, but for the most part, those restrictions are based on actual research. I also feel very sorry towards mom, but she's blaming the wrong person here. Managers just do their job, they are normal people that don't enjoy being a**holes. She's being very emotional and treating everyone as enemies out to get her blind daughter and discriminate against her. She's also in the wrong here, though I admire her for fighting for her daughter's rights despite five prior offences for doing it. One more word in support of the daughter. Let's just say that I know what she feels in those moments when your mom gets into a fight because of you and causes a scene. I've been there and I gotta say that it hurts you more. When you have to witness your most beloved mother go through such a situation it hurts you more and it scars you more than anything else other people might say about you or the way other people might treat you. It's not so much about the embarrassment, it's just not something you want to experience. It just hurts you more to see how your mother suffers and lashes you because of you, 'cuz that how you feel in that moment. The blind girl is used to the treatment of other people. For her just not riding that attraction would be so much easier than to be in the situation her mother causes. It's not like she doesn't understand where her mother is coming from, she's well aware, that why she doesn't want her mom to lash out though. I'm gonna repeat it again, embarrassment is not the main reason for her distress. She wants her mother to be happy but instead she witnesses how much her mom is suffering in those moments. Writing that letter probably was her last resort because her mother doesn't try to understand how she feels in these situations. Making the decision to write this letter must've been one of the hardest things she's ever done.
  21. nateko

    [Drama 2018] Voice 2, 보이스2

    Oh wow, 2 minutes into the first episode and it's already more gruesome than the first season. I'm disturbed and this comes from a person that didn't find the first season scary or all that graphic. They actually opened up the season by showing some psycho film how his crazy minion chops off a cop's arm with a grass mower while he is still alive. What the actual FFF?! I am so disturbed. I'll rather watch the rest in the morning...
  22. I guess that must be the family relation certificate or something like that. In South Korea they have these docs available: a basic certificate (birth certificate) a family relation certificate or a certificate of removal from the family registry. The last two certificates contain information about the composition of the family and record whether a member of the family has died.
  23. I'm sorry, but I just had to point out how contradictory these two statements are. For me personally, the only excuse to hit someone is when you're protecting yourself or your loved ones. From the preview, it seems that SB hits NS after he made NSIII attack her/physically harm her. If we view NSIII as a robot only, a thing, then that's basically the same thing as NS using a tool to harm SB. Nothing can excuse that. If he deliberately used NSIII to physically harm a person (lets not even take SB into the picture), nothing can excuse that. Him hitting her in the first ep. has been excused aplenty and has some good points, but this time there's no freaking excuse for him doing that. It honestly blows my mind how far people go to excuse NS's shitty behaviour. Understanding him and pitying him is one thing, but let's not justify his violent tendencies just because he's a poor soul and has suffered. I desperately hope to see his redemption arc because right now his behaviour is hard to digest.
  24. Human Shin is a frustrating character. So what the hell does he want from everyone? What should they do and how should they behave for him to finally calm down? I think he doesn’t know that himself. At this point, I think that no matter what they do he won’t be satisfied, and that’s where it becomes solely his own problem. Yes, he has a painful, horrible past but what about others, they don’t? Is mom’s past not painful or in YH’s past a flowery road of sunshine and rainbows? We know enough to say that no, they’ve all suffered, and their lives were also messed up. Yes, human Shin was a child growing up in horrible circumstances, but how about YH? The guy was an orphan child, who knows what hell he went through? Human Shin’s behaviour is understandable to a certain extent, but his past experiences don’t give him a free pass to hurt others. Let’s be real, our patience has a limit and there’s only so much we can take before going “screw you, I’m out” when dealing with someone like NS, no matter his past. YH might reach this point soon if NS won't change. I really like the saying “Your past doesn’t define you”, yes, it shapes us but the person you are now is one that you’ve made yourself. I thought about how I would answer NS's question about how I would feel if there was a robot just like me and everyone liked it more. My first reaction would be anger too, but the second thing I would do is question why it is better than me, what does it do and how does it behave that’s better than me and made others like it more than myself. And that’s where I saw NS’s problem – in his mind he’s never at fault for anything. Everyone around him is guilty but not him, everyone is bad and hurt him, while he is the only victim. With that, he just keeps justifying his horrible behaviour. Reality is he’s the only one responsible for how people treat him and where his life will go from now. If he can’t handle this situation on his own like an adult, I’m sorry to say, it’s his problem. That’s how life is, I think he should know it better than anyone. I feel like he had never made an effort to understand the people who are there for him, whether it’s YH, mom or even YN.
  25. Is So Bong with human Shin in that new BTS? I hope he won't toy with my favourite OPT's feelings, that would be disappointing.
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