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  1. mn0096

    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    Welcome to the forum. With SA, it only takes two eps, sometimes less, for us to ship them. Little by little, add @linzer03‘s invaluable list of moments (it’s on the thread, so check it out if you haven’t already), plus everything else that shippers pick up on, and bam! you’re in. SA do make us a bit crazy (in a good way, ofc).
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    I agree. With him making so much noise lately about marriage and children, he’s already found someone. More than ever, he’s gotten really specific. YJS wants him to stop talking, and to start doing.
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    @Spartacematchmade, thanks so much for doing this. Love the BGM. Now, imagine KJK singing Richard Marx to SJH, throw in a bit of Bruno Mars, and finish off with Letter by the man himself. IIRC, he said he would sing it on his wedding day. LETTER: Source: KJK Indonesia Even if the heart explodes, the lips stay closed I’ve been sparing the words, I love you I want to give you everything, but my hands are shabby Fear continues to grow in my heart I don’t have very much and lack even more But I’ve been trying hard to gain You must’ve been lonely, but without any complaints You smiled and waited for me I love you I promise you eternity There are no words that could describe you My tears speak to me As they sink into my heart The name that will not be erased until my life ends There isn’t a reason to always share what I feel My love is bound to show Even without a purchased gift, one compliment Would overjoy that person and bring them into my arms I love you I promise you eternity There are no words that could describe you My tears speak to me As they sink into my heart The name that will not be erased until my life ends In a place in my heart, saddness lies I’m sorry for having memories without you in them I didn’t want to have any part of me Not to be filled with you I was a person born today I have started to fill my heart again, the first word I said was your name As if the world is ending tomorrow With every part of me I love you, The name that will not be erased until my life ends You’re my last love
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    Credits as indicated. Thanks.
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    I learned a new word today, : Tsundere (ツンデレ, pronounced [tsɯndeɾe]) is a Japanese term for a character development process that describes a person who is initially cold (and sometimes even hostile) before gradually showing a warmer, friendlier side over time. The word is derived from the terms tsun tsun (ツンツン), meaning to turn away in disgust, and dere dere (デレデレ) meaning to become 'lovey dovey'.[1] Originally found in Japanese bishōjo games,[2]the word is now part of the otaku moe phenomenon,[3] reaching into other media such as maid cafés,[3] anime, manga, novels, and even mass media. The term was made popular in the visual novel Kimi ga Nozomu Eien.[1] Source: Wikipedia According to the vid below, SJH called KJK a “tsundere.” As a nerd: I find it interesting that the term seeped deeply enough into SK speech for SJH to use it casually. As a shipper: Since I haven’t read anime in a while, I’m not completely familiar with the concept, but from the little bit that I know of anime (or romantic story telling, in general), the “mean” guy (see Wikipedia translation above) often turns out to be the good guy and the one the lead girl ends up with. In some mythologies, this character has elements of the “strong and silent” type. He’s often the hero everyone depends on. Note: I could be way off though, since SKs may use “tsundere” differently from its Japanese roots. I’m also not treating SA like two fictional characters. I love and respect them both way too much to do that. I’m just sharing a fun bit of info. Credits as indicated. Thanks.
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    I love HH, but sometimes he can be too much. While they toured that very expensive, multi-level apartment in Vietnam, he even told KJK to stay behind with the realtor, to basically spend the night with her just to get a deal. Sometimes I wonder how HH has managed to stay alive this long. While KJK cringed but smiled at that suggestion, he did finally put his foot down with the realtor. He must have done the same with the Vietnamese model/singer (sorry, I can’t remember her name). We shouldn’t always rely on captions, but IIRC there was a caption that said the staff hoped for some chemistry between the two, but there was none. Interesting how KJK would put up with only so much for lots of women, but would stay quiet for 8+ years with SJH. He gets angry when HH makes innocent comments (try three times with KJK and he’ll fall in love), but only smiles when HH says something scandalous (MAMA). As for when Gap Jin’s Tinder date showed up, it was so funny how HH and KJK’s playful sides came out: HH wouldn’t stop talking about their “couple” clothes, and when KJK stuck out his foot to show that his socks matched theirs, HH forcefully removed KJK’s. Oh, and I also love how Gap Jin made KJK open the cake for him. What a supportive boss. LOL Anyone knows if BP’s projects from the past seasons did well? I’m just curious. Thanks. Having trouble quoting, so I’m copying: “Back to rididng bicycles by Han river in episode 420, SJH's wish was to ride bicycles by Han River with the wind brushing their faces. But to make it into a funny scene, they went to the gym to ride the bicycles there. If it was me and I had such a personal memory, I wouldn't share it with others unless SJH wanted to go on a bicycle ride by the Han River with her bf without putting on masks and sunglasses. I still remember the off camera pictures of KJK and SJH riding bicycles in RM (I think it was the first episode after Gary's departure) that didn't air on the actual episode.” — @saissuspicious I agree. As @Regita M. P detailed, SJH constantly talks about this, so she must have wonderful memories associated with it. I love how she complains that it’s not what she has in mind, but KJK says it’s free, LOL. I also notice that he repeatedly tells her to get on the bike, to try it, but he softens his voice. This reminds me of what a couple would do: the mom and kids want to do something, but the dad comes up with his own alternative, convinced that he knows best. Everyone huffs and puffs, someone may even cry, but they all go along. I love this scene. Not being able to workout with a celeb BF: Yep. If the non-celeb BF is good looking, fans may notice and tease her, but he can easily be explained away. She can’t do that with a celeb, especially a well-known one rumored to be her BF.
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    Nerd, alert: In case anyone wants to read up on the concept of “family,” (blood related or not) in SK, I’m attaching the following link. I’m not familiar with the site, so I can’t vouch for the validity of what it says. Nonetheless, the piece is fascinating, though slightly biased and a bit on the scholarly side (Sorry, about that). Basically, “family” for SK is based largely on Confuciunism. It’s very complex. My own culture has its version, but it’s complex as well, and difficult to explain to someone outside of it. I’m not even going to try, except to say that even if someone shares the same blood as mine, it’s very possible to still marry. Being blooded with someone (or their “real life” sibling) doesn’t always mean belonging to a nuclear family (mom, dad and their biological children). If I have to go there, which I won’t, the definition of “sibling” is equally complex within the concept of “family.” Nerd, out. https://asiasociety.org/education/value-and-meaning-korean-family Shipper, alert: We’ve been blessed with so much good stuff re: SA, guys. I’m looking at my cup right now, and it’s more than half full. I’m thankful. Shipper, out.
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    I can’t seem to grab a vid of HJY’s expression when the ajumma asked about KJK on MUD, but here’s a link to the Naver article I mentioned. https://m.entertain.naver.com/read?oid=311&aid=0000926016
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    Since I was asked directly, and I think the subject does pertain to SA, I won’t be putting this under spoiler. There have been only two HJY eps, with a few more planned I suspect, so I may have to revise my analysis, but so far, not much time has been spent on the loveline. HJY’s doing this with her older sister, so I understand that MUD needs to establish their relationship, especially since the sister is not a celeb and viewers don’t know much about her, but as hard as they pushed the loveline (on and off RM), more should have been said or teased about it, yet very little has. The point of anyone going on MUD is to find a mate, with KJK being the most visible candidate for HJY, yet he’s hardly been mentioned. The focus for both eps have been on the sister: her cooking, her cuteness, how funny she is, how charismatic she is, how she controls HJY, how well she sings and dances. In contrast, HJY has been portrayed a bit more negatively: obsessed with video games, a good cook but not as good as her sister, cute and bubbly, but definitely a bit disappointing to the moms as DIL material. Last week, quite a bit of the reaction shots were focused on KJK’s mom, but she was asked directly only two times about HJY: In the beginning when HJY popped on the screen without makeup, one of the MCs said to KJK’s mom, “She’s pretty, isn’t she?” (Or something like that). His mom just laughed. The second time she was asked directly was toward the end. The basketball player wanted to know if KJK’s mom liked HJY as a DIL. The answer: It’s not up to her. She sounded diplomatic more than enthusiastic. No reactions from the rest of the panel. No added commentaries. No cheesy music and captions. Nothing. This week, there was a Naver article that popped up before broadcast time showing HJY and her sister at a supermarket. Supposedly, HJY was asked about KJK and, going by just the screen cap of HJY, she looked shy, but very happy. When I watched the ep, an ajumma rushed up to HJY to ask if she was dating KJK. She did act cute and happy, but her answer wasn’t shown. I’m not saying she didn’t answer, just that MUD may have edited out her answer. If so, why? The reaction from the panel to this: Oh, she was asked about dating KJK. Nothing else. No direct question to his mom. No reaction from anyone else. IMO, basically a shrug. Yet, MUD spent months developing the loveline. The most bizarre thing for me: if someone teased my sister about another guy in front of me, especially if my sister and I have a loving but bickering relationship, I would never let her off the hook. Yet, also nothing from the sister. As I said, the focus this week remained on the sister, with HJY once against being characterized as the little sister who sneaks away to play video games while the older sister cooks for her. And, man, did everyone rave about how great of a cook the sister was! At one point, the basketball player turned to KJK’s mom and said, “Oh. She looks really interested. Maybe she’s thinking of her (the sister) as an in law.” (I’m paraphrasing, ofc). Not as a DIL, but as an in law. KJK’s mom just laughed. Again, no reaction from the panel. As I said, things could change in the next eps, but for a show that pushed the loveline so hard, they sure haven’t capitalized on it. They can certainly focus on the sisters, but when moments presented themselves (cooking, the ajumma at the super market, direct questions about DILs and in laws in general, etc), more could have been said or suggested, but nothing. Also, why being more positive about the sister’s personality and DIL skills vs HJY’s? Is MUD setting up the sister or HJY? Plus, KJK has not been on MUD the last two eps, and he’s not featured in next week’s preview. Maybe MUD didn’t want to take the focus away from HJY’s segment, but how would KJK having a segment take away from hers? If she shows up on MUD, won’t most viewers expect KJK to be the reason? I’ve written a lot, but may have explained little. Sorry, if that’s the case. IMO, KJK may have forced MUD to change their plans when he denied the HJY loveline so strongly on RM. IIRC, her segment was supposed to air very close to when he denied, but it was postponed for some reason. Also since KJK’s denial, SA have been a lot more visible, both on and off RM. I won’t speculate beyond that, but I don’t believe in coincidences, especially when they come at us relatively fast. Stay tuned, as always, but I think they may be phasing out the loveline on MUD. I would love to read from you guys re: this subject, especially if you see things differently.
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    While I understand what you mean, I wasn’t sad when I heard him say this, . He’s been saying that he wants a child for a while now, so hearing him say this right after he said he wanted a daughter with SJH in last week’s ep made me happy. Plus, the fact that when he said that, SJH was right there. She didn’t get offended, instead switched the subject to her and JSJ’s picture. Then, we get the exchange above between YJS and KJK. IIRC, what followed was SA engaging their magnet, and very obviously standing together apart from the others. KJK even moved away from his partner to stand next to SJH. One more thing: when they did the quiz game, one of the questions involved singles dating. IIRC, the caption said something about how KJK (I assume) should stop doing that, suggesting that he gets married. IMO, from SA to the members and even the staff (from the way they did the games, the editing, even literally shining a spotlight on KJK), the past two eps focused a lot on KJK and his wishes to get married and have children, in subtle and not so subtle ways. In between, we get PJF, and in the next couple of eps or so, SA are seemingly on the same team. I just finished watching the latest MUD ep where the Hong sisters were featured. IMO, things look positive for SA from that side, too. We always look forward to the end of the year awards and the FT ep, but I’m especially curious what we’re going to see this year.
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    OMG, the feels. And, the perfect song for them, Hide and Seek, though there doesn’t seem to be much hiding these days. They’re so awkwardly cute and shy with each other. Credits as indicated. Thanks.
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    So cringy, but so cute. And, he couldn’t stop looking toward SJH, plus the staff inserted a little squeak when he did that, LOL. It doesn’t matter that she’s hidden. We still know she’s there. And, OMG, JYJ was having so much fun teasing SA. Credits as indicated. Thanks.
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    In case some of you haven’t seen this: Credits as indicated. Thanks.
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    Would love to read from those of you who understood what they said. I assume they talked about RM, maybe that time they both got fired, and perhaps how he helped her get through it. She said something, almost teared up, and he thanked her. As @Regita M. P said, he always looked toward SJH whenever he got a bit uncomfortable. It’s been a while, but I saw him repeatedly do his blinking motion, a sure sign that he was nervous. He also looked at the staff a few times. Also, if I saw it right, before JYJ and KJK started the Ofc game, JYJ teased him by (maybe) suggesting that she touches his chest (sorry if I misunderstood). SJH jumped in there like she was setting parameters and/or rules about what can be touched. Overall, the vibe was relaxed (well, maybe not so much for KJK, LOL), very sweet, even touching. I think SA talked about hardships, than everyone else offered their own stories. They were very careful with each other, but it’s clear that they’re very close. And, yes, they side-hugged each other before he left. Again, I don’t know Hangul, so apologies if I misunderstood some things.
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    SPARTACE COUPLE KimJongkook-SongJiHyo

    It’s pretty clear to me that KJK came because of SJH. While he said that he watched the show because of her and the staff, the second part was a throwaway. Just my opinion, ofc, but I think JYJ knew that, too, that’s why she dismissed that part, turned to SJH, and said “He’s a real oppa,” suggesting “He’s your real oppa.”** Myuk made doubly sure to highlight SJH, from her reaction when he walked in (the caption said “Nervous”) and the repeated zooms back to her, to making sure that she stood and sat next to KJK, with some help from JYJ and Joy. While we can’t be sure if the girls knew what the deal was, the way JYJ took charge was odd to me, like someone told her to because SJH was going to be too nervous. While in tomorrow’s ep KJK may interact more with the other girls, even pair up with one of them, the presence looming in the room will be SJH. He’s there for her, and if he says “I came because of you,” I agree that he will be talking to her. Edit: **And, let’s remember that there are multiple meanings for “Oppa,” depending on the circumstances.
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