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  1. @kilovekyo, I believe you are correct. I enjoy IU's version of "Loving You" so much that I assumed her voice was on the track chosen by MEC, but after listening to Minnie Riperton's original recordings and comparing them with the MEC cut, I think Minnie Riperton's voice (accompanied by tell-tale birds) is the one we hear; not IU's. Nice catch!
  2. This question will pale in comparison to the new crumbs from IU (yea; 고마워요, LJE!), but did anyone else notice IU singing "Loving You" as the MEC background music in the most recent episode, while Park Min-young was packing for her trip to Italy? First LJG quotes his line to Hae Soo from MLSHR and then IU sings "Loving You" while PMY is getting ready to leave Korea? Hmm. Might the producers of MEC be leaving us crumbs, too? Also, @WH, I think LJG guessed that his Candy was Kim Go-eun because PMY first described herself as a cute person with a round face and chubby cheeks.
  3. @jerboa83, the timing and scene and song selections for your video are outstanding! Thank you for sharing it with us. @pixelsticks, thank you for the snapshots of other fans' reactions, around the globe. Clearly, we're not alone, in having either been shattered by the drama or found ourselves having a hard time moving on...or both! @oyashirazu, in the LJG thread, I believe you called attention to LJG's incredible body control. I have to agree: the manners in which he walks away from his mother in Episode 4, Hae Soo (when she's imprisoned) in Episode 11, and his daughter and brother in Episode 20 are all very different, yet completely in keeping with what Wang So would likely be thinking and feeling, at that moment. To my eye, one can even suss out the level of maturity of the character at each stage: the rebellious son, turning his back on his mother and all she represents; the young man, wracking his brain to help the love who lies broken on a bed of straw; the king who knows through years of hard-won experience the costs and benefits of his crown and when best to leave something as it is. Kudos to LJG for paying such close attention to how his character would walk in each scene...and then executing so well. Last, but not least, I completed a re-watch (for the nth time) of Episode 11, and it is every bit as searing, now, as it was the first time. The staying power of this drama is bar none!
  4. Did anyone else happen to notice how flimsy the "evidence" that KSR and the Go and Go lawyers presented to SY in Episode 14 was? I can let plot weaknesses like this one slide, because the whole of the show is still so charming, but I wish scriptwriters, in general, would work out kinks like these: A random background check on a TQ Retail manager that gives no indication of where it was found, is not tied to a particular requestor, and was actually stolen from an office, would never hold up in court. (A date- and time-stamped picture of it in the office in which it was found would have been better.) Likewise, tracing an IP address from the public Internet through a corporate network is not so easy. Any decent corporate firewall is going to use network address translation, between the public and private networks, and if you know which floor an IP address can be traced to, then knowing the MAC address of the actual machine is a small thing. Either bit of knowledge (the source floor or computer) can't be achieved without having network administrator privileges, which means either IT team members have joined KSR's cause or Min-ji hacked into TQ Group's network, for which she can be arrested. Last, the TQ Cosmetics financial statements that PMS took from his uncle and gave to KSR probably constitute one of many different versions in circulation, and proving which one was authentic would take time and more evidence than what was shown. The only reason SY was cowed by these items was because the show's timeline needed him to be. If realism had not been suspended, then we would have another "Signal" on our hands, in which foiling the bad guys takes years, if not multiple lifetimes. Even so, my fervent prayer is that writers take a few more moments to logically sew up these improbabilities and keep their work at an admirably tight level.
  5. What I love about the few MEC clips I've been able to see, thus far, the Instagram post, and other chingus' notes here is that LJG seems to be clearly stating where his bar has been set: "If you're cute (like LJE) and can draw out the passion and romance of a Wang So (like Hae Soo/LJE) and you've known pain and suffering on a par with my own (like LJE), then, perhaps, dear Candy, or whoever you may be, you and I will connect well. If not, then you can find me online or in real life chatting with my close colleague, LJE." For LJE and LJG, the rapport and the art they were able to create together have so visibly become a standard, against which other relationships and creative output will continue to be measured.
  6. Yes, @bebebisous33, I agree that gluttony is a theme in this show. According to the Viki subs, at least, Seo Yool and the manager from TQ Courier Services who back-stabbed KSR have both been called gluttons by KSR. But could someone please explain to me why this thread is not on fire? Why are Soompiers not head-over-heels in love with this show? I am truly baffled that this drama is over half-way through its run and we're only on page 17. A few things I adore about Chief Kim: The humanization of Seo Yool and his bittersweet longing for Yoon Ha-kyung. I love his yearning for her, her regard for him as a fellow human being, no matter his flaws, and their current honesty with each other, about the sides they've taken. Seo Yool's challenge to Kim Sung-ryong to squash him, to completely destroy him. With that grin on his face when he goaded Kim Sung-ryong and his confession to Yoon Ha-kyung that he is tired of being so many steps ahead of everyone else - yet, simultaneously addicted to the power rush - SY seems to be begging for someone to knock him from his own pedestal and let him be a human being among other human beings, for a time. While KSR is reacting to SY just as SY intends - mano a mano - YHK hears the exhaustion in his pursuit of something even SY knows he cannot find. Because of SY's unstaged attraction to YHK and her empathy for him, I low-key ship them. She's not about to try and save him, and he's not asking her to, but she is a moral mirror, of sorts, for both of our male leads. The fact that KSR is surrounded by women who support him without tearing each other to shreds. From the building custodian to Hong Ga-eun to Oh Gwang-sook to Yoon Ha-Kyung, women seem to orbit around KSR, yet they do not vie with one another for his attention. They support him because they like him and believe in his goodness, but they also like and befriend each other. Since this show directly addresses the gluttony of capitalist society, drawing relationship lines that relied upon the coveting of one person and the destruction of another (as is typically seen in romantic triangles) would be at odds with the overall message. Hence the almost-socialistic sharing of resources (such as the money KSR split 30/70 with the team) and ties. The characters in this show are in it, together. Even SY is granted a sliver of humanity that is seen by YHK and may well result in his ultimate acceptance by our heroes and heroines. (This absorption of a prior "evil" into the goodness of the group has already occurred with Park Myung-suk's reassignment to the accounting division and may well happen, again.) The ambiguity of SY's character. He may turn out to be the biggest mole of them all...or the biggest scourge ever to roam the planet. We don't really know, and, as of episode 12, he and the other characters don't really know, either. In the show, I see a smattering of not just other drama OSTs, but other drama motifs, from Misaeng's office culture to Angry Mom's corruption to Pied Piper's hope for a populace that embraces the power of caring for one another. What's miraculous about this production, thus far, is its ability to take themes that have been explored previously and knit them into a cohesive and fresh whole that stands on its own merits.
  7. Thank you so much for your post, @marimari00! I had not realized that my last paragraph could read like a rationalization against something special between LJE and LJG. In truth, I meant those ideas to represent one of many aspects that brought LJE and LJG closer. LJG's heavy-lidded looks at LJE during his fan meeting in Taiwan convinced me that he is seriously into her. No doubts, whatsoever. LJE's recently-released description of her conversation with LJG, following her concert in Taiwan, also indicates, to me, that he will go to whatever lengths he has to for her. The fact that she doesn't expect him to do so and her massive appreciation when he does surely compound his desire to keep pleasing her. Personally, I think he's a goner, where she's concerned. (And she seems pretty smitten, as well.) But timing is everything, and they're laying low, now; that's all. JoonJi is magic; I can't imagine any other coupling could blow them out of any water. Like the rest of the Stargazers, I'm on this ship all the way. I really agree with your second paragraph, too, by the way.
  8. I love your post, chingu! And oh, my gosh. Could you imagine them acting together again??? *Faint* From Lee Joon-gi's interview, I also took how important it was to him that Lee Ji-eun carried her own weight on set and that her work ethic was so strong and her ambition so great. Those personality traits seemed to free Lee Joon-gi to more fully be Wang So. Because he no longer felt the strain of having to carry an entire production on his shoulders - and carry his leading lady's performance, as in the past, apparently - he could let loose and just act. No wonder LJE is so important to him: she helped him to create Wang So as much as he helped her to create Hae Soo. With such similar senses of responsibility and industry, the age difference is irrelevant. He would treat her as an equal; in every way that could matter to him, she is a match. The burden that LJG typically places on himself to maintain an ideal working environment on set now seems like at least part of the reason for his lack of chemistry with prior female leads (potentially excepting Shin Min-ah): if he didn't trust them to share the lead-actor strain with him, from where would the chemistry flow?
  9. Yow!! I love your reasons for the invectives directed toward IU's acting! All three drivers definitely apply, and now that I think about them a bit more, I can see one or all of those trends in the posters who decry IU the most. Thanks! Also, I completely agree with your take on MLSHR. Much of the show's power lies in its unflinching presentment of how people so often treat one another, based on their priorities and limited knowledge, at the time.
  10. And what was with the utter lack of eye contact with the interviewer? I don't think Lee Joon-gi's eyes rested in the same place twice or for more than a second. I'd be curious to see if his eyes were equally shifty when discussing his other cast mates.
  11. Agreed. Now we will have more opportunities to see how unique the bond is between Lee Ji-eun and Lee Joon-gi, by comparing what they have shown us against the (likely more "professional") rapport (and stricter fan service) they will demonstrate with other colleagues.
  12. @postnihilism and @nsyavita, I second your motion regarding IU's acting. I have never understood why people have so mercilessly bashed her acting abilities. For the record, I want to very clearly state that she had me at the first bottle of soju, when she was a bleached-out, washed-out version of Go Ha-jin. I got hooked on MLSHR because of her portrayals of Go Ha-jin and Hae Soo. Yes, Lee Joon-gi was awesome as Wang So. Yes, most of the supporting cast was delightful. No, I didn't always agree with Hae Soo's actions, especially in the later episodes. But IU sold me on her character. Go Ha-jin/Hae Soo was eminently relatable; if I can't find a point of solid connection with a female protagonist, I don't watch a show, no matter how talented the male lead may be. From episodes 1 through 10, IU struck me as a good actress. Episode 11, though, she slayed. From that point forward, I had mad respect for her. The depth of emotion and realism that she was able to pour into her scenes in episodes 11 and 12, in particular, convinced me that she has the goods. She is a genuinely talented actress and we will see many amazing portrayals from her in the years to come. For someone so young to be able to depict devastation so well is incredibly unusual and makes one wonder what of life she knows and has lived (because that kind of knowledge has to be earned the hard way). Certainly, we all have our tastes in art, but deriding an actress as truly gifted and hard-working as IU is, in my opinion, ridiculous and unwarranted. [Rant over.]
  13. @marimari00 and @desvlo, huge HUGS to both of you, and to all Stargazers! This thread is THE BEST place to hang out.
  14. @Joseph Lim, before reading your post, I had zero idea that LJG smoked. (Shows how diligent of a fan I am!) For a moment, I was saddened to human he is. The SBS Award night and Taiwan appearances really made him and LJE seem so ethereal, so perfect, that I forgot they could have the same vices and proclivities as the rest of us. Sigh. I've had other, offline discussions with Stargazers who've wondered if our favorite couple will also reflect us to the extent that this magical connection between them might fade into no more than a momentary attraction. Could they merely be infatuated with each other, and have a bond that might not possess true lasting power? When I think of infatuation - of what it looks and feels like - I am reminded of @Silvermaine's recent post on SooWook. (Great arguments, by the way!) That relationship was a pretty classic example of infatuation. But because I, myself, am fresh out of ideas on differentiating infatuation from lasting love, I'd rather mention why I do ship JoonU: Going back to the original questions about the temporal nature of relationships and infatuation: Relationships certainly do shift and sometimes seem to come to end. JoonU could be no different. In this regard, only time will tell. Infatuation, though, is shallower than what I perceive them as sharing. The kind of public support that they have provided for each other goes above and beyond the bounds of what I know as infatuation. The depth of their mutual respect bespeaks a consideration of each other that is also not typically present when two people are bedazzled by surface lights. Peace out, all.