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  1. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    You’re kidding! Golden life was sh—(expletive which will not be uttered). It started out well then descended into makjang melo.
  2. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    Welcome!! And thank you! This is such a beautiful song. I actually thought the lyrics seemed more fitting for Ji An, who’s felt unwanted most of her life: At Seventeen Janis Ian I learned the truth at seventeen That love was meant for beauty queens And high school girls with clear skinned smiles Who married young and then retired The valentines I never knew The Friday night charades of youth Were spent on one more beautiful At seventeen I learned the truth And those of us with ravaged faces Lacking in the social graces Desperately remained at home Inventing lovers on the phone Who called to say "come dance with me" And murmured vague obscenities It isn't all it seems at seventeen A brown eyed girl in hand me downs Whose name I never could pronounce Said: "pity please the ones who serve They only get what they deserve" The rich relationed hometown queen Marries into what she needs With a guarantee of company And haven for the elderly So remember those who win the game Lose the love they sought to gain In debitures of quality and dubious integrity Their small-town eyes will gape at you In dull surprise when payment due Exceeds accounts received at seventeen To those of us who knew the pain Of valentines that never came And those whose names were never called When choosing sides for basketball It was long ago and far away The world was younger than today When dreams were all they gave for free To ugly duckling girls like me... We all play the game, and when we dare We cheat ourselves at solitaire Inventing lovers on the phone Repenting other lives unknown That call and say: "come on, dance with me" And murmur vague obscenities At ugly girls like me, at seventeen
  3. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    The scenes go with the voiceover from Dong Hoon’s flashback. “After twenty years together...I don’t know what to do.” The sleeping guys represent Dong Hoon’s state of mind before meeting Ji An, his state of mind in his marriage. Inactive and just going along for the ride. But Ji An’s love for him woke him up, and that is the way out of his twenty something year long slumber.
  4. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    So instead of watching another Korean drama I went back to watch one of my favourites, In the Mood For Love. And more than ever, I'm convinced that Oh Hae Young / PD Kim were inspired by In the Mood For Love. What is the one memento that Chow Mo Wan keeps to remind him of Su Li Zhen? The one 'love gift' PD Kim uses in his shows? Her slippers. Left in his room while she was "trapped" by the arrival of outside guests for an all-night mahjong session. Many years later, after they part, she somehow finds her way to Singapore where he has moved, and ends up in his room. Chow returns and the room is empty - but he knows someone has called. He sees a single lit cigarette still burning on an ashtray and starts searching his room--the slippers are nowhere to be found. It's been a couple of years since I watched the show, maybe even a decade, and watching it again--this truly is a masterpiece. My Ahjussi reminded me so much of the feelings I experienced watching In the Mood for Love and I wanted to watch it again to remember why. Here's another memorable scene with parallels to My Ahjussi. While Chow and Su have been meeting over dinner, discussing writing, books, they each keep reminding themselves they are different from their cheating spouses. They will not even go anywhere near the line. But this moment, three quarters in, Chow's mask falls away: Here's the particular dialogue. Tony Leung - Chow Mo Wan, Maggie Cheung - Su Li Zhen. SLZ: You looked for me? CMW: I thought your colleague didn't pass my message. I wanted to buy a boat ticket. SLZ: You have to go somewhere? CMW: Ah Beng sent me many letters. He doesn't have enough people, he wants me to go over and help. SLZ: How long are you planning to go? CMW: I don't know. Let's see when I get there. SLZ: Why did you suddenly think of going to Singapore? (Dong Hoon: Why do you have to go that far?) CMW: I want a change of environment ... rather than listen to everyone talk (about us) (Ji An: I want to try and live as a different person & Ji An in the phone booth scene: Why, so they can throw a farewell party for a murderer?") SLZ: It's fine as long as we know nothing happened. CMW: That's what I thought as well before...that's why I wasn't scared about what people said. I believed I wouldn't be like them ... but I was. (pause) I know you won't leave your husband. I want to go away for a while. (Ji An: A person who can be happy without me has no attraction to me & Ji An: I didn't want to be lingering around like a fool hoping to catch a glimpse of you) SLZ: I didn't think you would really like me. CMW: I didn't think of it either. (pause) Back then we kept wondering how they started. Now I know. It turns out a lot of things are like that. I thought I would be fine...then I started to worry about what time your husband would return. Best if he didn't. I know, it's not right of me to think like that. ---- The gender roles are reversed here. Su Li Zhen (Maggie Cheung) is like Park Dong Hoon, unable to extricate herself from society's expectations of her - "I know you won't leave your husband." Ji An knows too, that Dong Hoon won't leave Yeon Hee. Not with all the rumours swirling about her and Do Joon Young and their marriage. He will stay just to prove them all wrong. And so, like Chow Mo Wan came to realise, she must go. And so to save Dong Hoon's goodness, to save the integrity of their relationship, she sacrifices herself. Just like Chow Mo Wan sacrifices himself -- so they will never, can never cross the line, and to protect Su Li Zhen's goodness. To protect her good name as a married woman.
  5. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    @akhenaten @ann04 I reckon it will just take time. It took six months for me and Secret Love Affair and during that time I did nothing but rewatch the show over and over again, trying to figure out its magic. I’m not able to watch anything else still, much like @ninaanin said I know from two decades of watching K Drama there ain’t going to be anything like this in a long while Seeing updates from PD Kim and Lee Seon Gyun and their new projects is bittersweet. They’ve moved on, and in time, so must we. Let me just linger a little longer... @seungshin I am still waiting eagerly to hear your thoughts! We actually picked some of our favorite posts, edited them and set up a fan site called Give Me Slippers (inspired by Piano Conversations!) and for those of you still following, I updated Contact
  6. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    That's just another manifestation of Dong Hoon's denial. He keeps trying to maintain a formal distance between them although his heart wants to get ever closer. And then in the end what does he say? "Why do you have to go that far?" And what does she say later, in reply? "It was because of you, Ahjussi. That I lived for the first time." It's this push-pull, push-pull that marks all great love stories, and sucks us right in!
  7. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    Right there with you. The three Ms sucked all my drama energy. I started with Mother, dropped it because it was too heavy, moved on to Misty, got hooked on it, the ending dragged me under a bus and with no expectations at all started My Ahjussi...only to end up completely transformed. I will never be able to watch a drama like I did in the past again. I started watching Mother again recently...and it isn't as good as I remembered. Some of the conflicts are resolved too quickly, there's too much narration instead of letting the characters unravel the story with dramatic action, and I suspect the chase/adventure is going to take up the bulk of the last 6 episodes. I don't think those points would have been so glaringly obvious to me before My Ahjussi. And let's not get started on Mr Sunshine...(I haven't yet )
  8. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    Haha I’m so glad you learnt to gif That, my dear is a sign of his chivalrousness...his intent to keep a distance from her no matter what
  9. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    I know people on the forum have expressed differing views and it’s mostly the “loveline folks” who can’t move on, but I have come to realize our different interpretations of My Ahjussi in many ways stem from the different ways we love and what love means to us. I’ve come to a stage in life where I have a broad, generous view of love. Love is having someone in your heart, even if you’re not together and can never be together. Love is doing things for someone without thinking, including risking your life. Love doesn’t always have a happy ending. And love’s natural ending is not always marriage. Love is something you feel in your heart. So I found it rather ridiculous and laughable, really, that this reviewer cited all these examples of Dong Hoon running to Ji An, risking his life for her, fighting for her....and calling them besties. She even said they need to be around each other forever...in what way is that not love??? In what world do you live in that this is not love???
  10. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    So apparently they showed a new IU/LSG PR clip after airing the first episode. I can’t find it anywhere but I did see a screenshot and the text was different from the earlier videos
  11. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    Another one on the never-ending translation list! This one is gold. This is a film critic's perspective of the screenwriting, cinematography and shot composition of My Ahjussi, using the Caution Electricity Scene. What I think @timidjock0819 also mentioned earlier...going away from close-ups to show emotion, but instead panning out to wide shots to highlight the character's isolation and loneliness http://leesunok.com/archives/630 Anyone know who is Lee Sun Ok?
  12. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    I'll try and translate it later, but apparently a journalist made negative comments about the violent scenes between Ji An and Gwang Il and Ji An's response "you like me, don't you." @seungshin the whole time I was watching My Ahjussi I thought, this is totally your type of show and wouldn't it be nice to hear your thoughts. I remember reading your comments on the Secret Love Affair, On the Way to the Airport and The Good Wife threads and always appreciating your thoughtful interpretations You're right. My Ahjussi isn't a drama to marathon. It's really heavy. (edit) I don't know what is wrong with these guys. "You like me, don't you" - I thought that was a brilliant line that described their relationship and went straight to the heart of their conflict. That many men commit violence against women they actually love (or think they love), and they are the ones who most need healing. And it matched so perfectly with Gwang Il's confession later in the story - "I don't know if I should kill you. Or kill myself."
  13. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    @timidjock0819 That was a great analysis/summary. You hit the nail on the head, IU can't help it, she looks cute which is why I couldn't reconcile mean badass Ji An with the IU music videos I had seen earlier. It must have been so liberating for her to portray Ji An and for her "old soul" and "real voice" to have the chance to come out. Absolutely a 30,000 year old soul living in a twenty-one year old body. So a little voice whispered in my ear something about IU's Ahjussi fans. I googled "IU uncle fans" and my mind exploded. This is a whole new rabbit hole! http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2015/11/iu-and-zeze.html ( @ninaanin if you're still here did you know about this?) What does TK think about this? The controversy itself is uninteresting; the more interesting part is the way in which IU decided to make this song. TK is convinced that, in today's K-pop scene, IU is the artist who possesses the most self-awareness about the way in which the K-pop market consumes her (or more precisely, her image,) and the interaction between her actions and the pattern of that consumption. In fact, she may be the most careful orchestrator of self-image in Korean pop music since Seo Taiji. Here is the uncomfortable truth: underlying much of IU's fandom is the id of barely-legal pedophilic desire. To be sure, this is a general phenomenon in the K-pop market, in which "uncle fans" of girl groups--men in their 30s and up, ogling mostly-uncovered young women--make up a significant portion of the fan base. Writ large, it is the general phenomenon of the way in which most young female pop stars are consumed in the market. (The Catholic school girl uniform by Britney Spears was certainly not geared only toward young men of her age.) But what sets IU apart from other youthful, girlish-looking K-pop idols is that, unlike the girl groups who are creations of a producing company, IU has invited the pedophilic gaze on her own terms. IU does not settle for the crude simulacra of pedophilia, like a school girl outfit. (Although she certainly does employ that too.) She employs much more sophisticated devices, like issuing a remake album containing hit songs from 1980s and 90s. (For an 80s song to be meaningful, you must be at least born in late 1970s. IU was born in 1993.) One of the most popular moments of IU is when she sings the songs of Kim Gwang-seok, whose soulful reflection on self made him the legend of early 90s Korean pop music. In this sense, IU is akin to an evolved Madonna; like the pioneering female American pop artist, IU flipped the script by taking over the agency of her own sexuality. In fact, IU does one better than Madonna, because she does this without any crass skin exposure. ---- No wonder there was so much controversy! It all makes sense now! Again, Lee Ji Eun is awesome and not that this is fair or deserved, but, now it makes sense! --- @sadiesmith The party's just begun! Why else are we hanging out here -- I spy with my little eye....the one and only @seungshin!!! I am waiting to hear your thoughts on the show!
  14. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    I feel like we've been down this road before. And I'm cool with Lee Ji Eun and think she's awesome and super talented But the poll says "idol survey" And most women in their thirties and forties no longer have "idols" That is all.
  15. justamom

    [Drama 2018] My Mister, 나의 아저씨

    Weelll....they just make up 80-90% of the viewing population for K Dramas. Most of the time. I don't know about you, but most guys just watch news and sports. News and sports. (that's what Dong Hoon and his brothers were always watching too) My Ahjussi was probably one of the first dramas in recent history to hit 50-50 gender ratio.
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