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  1. [Drama 2018] My Mister 나의 아저씨

    Rolling right on to episode 15....and I have a gif request!!! I was bursting with Dong Hoon’s longing and desire for Ji An....and then this line from the directors killed me. LOL. Director: No way....she can’t be the spy who loved the enemy... Park Dong Woon: major eye roll. @h2ogirl gif request please!
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    Just reporting in from the middle of episode 14 to say, oh my god! Park Dong Hoon! Your longing for Ji An is killing me!!!!! It feels even more intense than the first time I watched it! I’m such a mess inside!
  3. [Drama 2018] My Mister 나의 아저씨

    I've been doing some work on characterisation and it just shocks me how each and every one of My Ahjussi's characters is so real and complete. As I read through this book, I kept thinking of Park Dong Hoon. Park Hae Young really has nailed characterisation down to a T. So, here it is, for fun, and for all the budding writers out there. How to create a compelling character 1. The character needs or wants something Dong Hoon needs to learn to set his heart free. To be gentle to himself. Contradiction: he wants his stable home and family, but that's what at the start of the show is trapping his heart. 2. The character is having difficulty getting what he needs/wants, and comes up with a plan to overcome that Dong Hoon discovers Yoon Hee's affair. His plan is to force Do Joon Yeon to break up with her and never ever let Yoon Hee know that he knew, so that they can continue with their marriage. 3. He exhibits a contradiction Despite his quite, reserved, restrained exterior, Dong Hoon has hidden violent tendencies. He is not quite who we think he is, or who his brothers think he is. 4. Something unexpected happens that renders him vulnerable He meets Ji An, who seems to see right through him, forcing him to reflect on his pathetic life. She also upends his life through the bribery attempt and the kiss. Ji An reveals that Dong Hoon knows about the affair to Yoon Hee, exposing his attempts to cover up everything, exposing the truth of their marriage. 5. The unexpected suggests there is more to him than meets the eye: a secret. While his marriage and family unravels, Dong Hoon falls deeply and irrevocably in love with Ji An I just thought it was amazing how the show hit the mark for almost each and every character -- and managed to resolve almost each and everyone of their contradictions and conflicts. What else can I say except this show is amazing.
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    I have a question. Why doesn’t Park Dong Hoon drive? (besides that we’d all get over awed by his manliness) Why did Park Hae Young make him a character that gets driven (by Yoon Hee, his co-workers)? He does drive, but off the top of my head I can only remember two scenes. The supermarket run, and Ji An to see her grandma. Any thoughts?
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    Oh, that was definitely deliberate. There are a few, but something is always happening. Off the top of my mind I can remember a few: - Yoon Hee trying to talk to Dong Hoon, both of them sitting across the table with two beers, right before he walks away to watch TV - Yoon Hee and Dong Hoon getting into the car after buying groceries before the "showdown" - Yoon Hee kneeling and Dong Hoon prostrate on the floor during the "showdown" Each of these scenes is no more than a few seconds. I'm somewhere on episode 13 now and their upcoming separation is just SO, SO obvious to me this time. Episodes 11-12 mark the total and irreversible breakdown of their marriage. Just some notes here, so I can gif or analyse it later: - Yoon Hee, Do Joon Young and Ji An's confrontation around episode 12/13. After Ji An leaves, Yoon Hee makes a comment to DJY - "how long do you think I can put up this pretense that everything is alright? I'm just going to stay in the marriage until he has no more compassion left for me" (paraphrased by me) - The shock on Yoon Hee's face when DJY says "you think Ji An hung around Dong Hoon because of me?" --> this I think is the biggest cause of her shame in episodes 14/15 when she makes that comment about Ji An protecting Dong Hoon when she couldn't - Yoon Hee calling Ji An after that. "Do you really like Dong-Hoon sshi?" To which Ji An answers "Yes." A look of realisation dawns on Yoon Hee and she starts sobbing. To me, this is Yoon Hee's realisation that she has wrecked her marriage irreversibly. That she has completely lost Dong Hoon's heart. That this strange, young girl could love him so simply and wholeheartedly, while she tried to bring him down. That to me is the curtain call marking the end of their 20 years together.
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    I just had to translate this DC Inside post. http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&no=48038&page=2 More than Episode 16, it was Episode 14 that shocked me In episode 14, Dong Hoon picks up a family photo of him, Yoon Hee and Ji Seok, stroking it as though it is something precious, before setting it down on his table next to a photo with him and Ji Seok. It gave me a shock, as it suggested to me Dong Hoon's determination to continue his marriage with Yoon Hee. But Episode 15 gave me hope. Watching Dong Hoon caress his phone, his one link to Ji An, it made me think, he wants to continue this relationship with Ji An. Now, the much awaited photo scene in Episode 16.... To me this was evidence that it is impossible for Dong Hoon and Yoon Hee to ever get back together. That photo of Dong Hoon, Yoon Hee and Ji Seok has completely disappeared. The photos are just of Ji Seok and Yoon Hee. Of course, there is also that photo of the three brothers... But the photo that represented Dong Hoon's determination to keep his family together has vanished, leaving only photos of Yoon Hee and Ji Seok, which to me suggests that Yoon Hee is no longer part of his family, no longer his chib saram, but just Ji Seok's mom, ae omma. That is why it is completely impossible for me to even consider that Dong Hoon and Yoon Hee reconciled. Of course, everyone has their own judgement. And that's how I see it. (Edit: Me - I thought the first touch was cleaning dust off his photo! Haha. And the second one was the real longing touch)
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    @ccl82 I LOOOVE The Black Skirts!!!!!! That is all.
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    Less intimate --> not between Dong Hoon and Yoon Hee, but between Dong Hoon and the friend he's talking to. i.e. it shows that Dong Hoon and that friend are not close. Using real names is a sign of closeness in Korean society...unless someone is within your inner circle, you don't use real names. I wanted to write a separate post about this but I was listening v closely to Ji An's speech from episodes 5-11ish, and her speech with Dong Hoon. During a few of their "intimate discussions", she drops completely to banmal. Not in a rude way, but in a self-confessional way. I need to find a more appropriate linguistic term for this. It's like she's talking to herself, thinking aloud, and Dong Hoon is listening in. I found it extremely intimate. Those of you interested in Korean language might find this speech on formality interesting. There's a line in there that says hierarchy is still so ingrained in Korean society that "if you say your boss is younger than you everyone understands." https://asiasociety.org/korea/understanding-korean-language
  9. [Drama 2018] My Mister 나의 아저씨

    I believe that was a flashback, or Ki Hoon's recollection of what Sang Hoon said in the restaurant. When he yelled at him for moping around lovesick. Yup. Definitely chib saram. Ae omma at the end - that was the first time I heard it in the show, although other characters used it e.g. when referring to Aeryeon, I believe (ooh I must go and look for the reference). First time coming from Dong Hoon's mouth and to me it's SO significant. In my personal view - would need to ask a native speaker, but to me Ae Omma is something you would use when drawing distance between you and your wife, imho. E.g. Oh, I think this way about my kid's education, but my kid's mom has a different idea. Which is the exact context Dong Hoon refers to Yoon Hee. On Chib Saram I was researching linguistic articles and found this gem. "When you use chib saram, even though it's a commonly used term, it projects the image that the man and woman in the household have clearly defined roles." Which is the complete opposite of the reality of Dong Hoon and Yoon Hee's marriage, and of Yoon Hee's own ideas about marriage! On Ae Omma The other interesting thing I read while looking through linguistics analysis, is "ae omma" suggests he doesn't know the person well, otherwise he should use Ji Seok Omma. Apparently there is a government issued "standardised manners" book, which of all things, also guides how you should call your wife in public He's in denial!!!!!! In what way is that not the most romantic, deep, and soulful love of all? Don't get me wrong, I (mostly) agree with what you said. It's just to me, being able to feel something someone else feels, that sort of telepathic connection, is one of the deepest emotional connections one human being can have with another.
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    @oldschooler I loved your post so much I'm going to quote all of it. It's funny because a few weeks ago I said My Ahjussi with that ending has catapulted straight into my list of all-time favourite love stories, #1 being none other than In the Mood for Love! I really liked your distinction about Park Dong Hoon chewing on a piece of leather so he could do the right thing. It's such an effective illustration of what in writing we call the conflict between what a character WANTS and what a character NEEDS. Dong Hoon wants to do the right thing = holds back his feelings, does not rock the boat, remain the faithful husband, devoted father and filial son, LETS JI AN GO But what Dong Hoon really needs is to shake up his pathetic life and give himself a hug. He needs to separate from Yoon Hee, and BRING JI AN BACK TO HIS SIDE. Because she's what helps him breathe. And breathing is a need, not a want. It's hard to really get this clear in your head as a writer and in Dong Hoon's case it's so so clear and that's why it's so powerful and effective. Park Hae Young, once again I bow to your greatness! Were there anti-suicide messages on the bridge? I must go back and check. And re: train tracks, that image in the cinema of the train tracks / going back in time/forward in time, that made me think of jumping the tracks as well. @mylovelystar Thanks for sharing that! So Ahn Seung-kyun is a stage actor as well? Another stage actor from the My Ahjussi cast.
  11. [Drama 2018] My Mister 나의 아저씨

    Thanks so much for the explanation! The DVD is apparently going to be only 480p. That's a big difference! I was in Seoul for episodes 9 and 10 and watching it live on a huge HD TV, it felt like a completely different show! The texture, the expressions--and yes, those tears! I checked Yes24 and most of the other shows seem to have the same huge price gap. Which I really don't get since in most cases nowadays the price difference is negligible.
  12. [Drama 2018] My Mister 나의 아저씨

    Listening to this in the office is just giving me all the feels and making it impossible for me to do work. What a gorgeous soundtrack!!! Thanks for sharing @sadiesmith My Ahjussi really has the best sound director. Another scene that struck me in my rewatch. Gwang Il telling Ji An that he just told Dong Hoon that she's a thieving bxxxx. And the heartbreak on her face as he rejects her at the subway station, telling her to go home. It's all over now, she thinks. It's all over. She takes out her earphones and stops listening. Which makes Dong Hoon's confrontation with Gwang Il the next day that much more powerful. Edit: OST #16, Crumpled Life---that has to be Sang Hoon's soundtrack, right there! I almost burst out laughing when I heard it!
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    So after taking forever to get from episodes 1-4, I binge watched 5-11 over Raya weekend. Once it got going I just couldn’t stop. I even missed live watching my favourite World Cup team tonight....and that’s big for me because I’ve been following their games at every World Cup since more than 20 years back. I have so many thoughts but I need some time to collect them. I watched it closely this round to study how they built up Dong Hoon and Ji An’s relationship, which on my first watch hit me out of the blue during the slippers incident (episode 11). On second watching I think Dong Hoon fell for her as early as episode 6 and 7, when he started sharing his innermost thoughts in a very intimate way he’s done with no one else in the show. Except maybe Sang Won. And another pivotal moment that jumped out at me was Ji An’s decision to confront Yoon Hee and expose the fact that Dong Hoon knew about the affair. Why? I think because she decided there and then that Do Joon Yeon wouldn’t stop unless she took him down. What do you think? I need to go back and rewatch that part again. Even on third or fourth watching the crisis scene between Yoon Hee and Dong Hoon still makes me tremble with sorrow and fear. Fear that this man is going to internally combust after holding everything in for so long. The tension was built up so well, through a few short scenes - the parking card, the beer. And the fact that we don’t see the violence directly, but through hazy flashbacks in the clear light of day. One new thing I noticed. If you listen closely at the end of ep 11, Dong Hoon sweeps something down — it sounds like a stack of glasses or beer bottles comes down crashing. Again, another example in this show of the most intense emotions being hidden/shown through a filter —>>>which actually works to amplify the tension/intensity of their reactions! Brilliant storytelling. Another realisation, or confirmation of a feeling that I had earlier: Yoon Hee really loved Dong Hoon. At least in the early years. And she probably still does. In a warped way, it was Dong Hoon’s lack of love towards her that made her that way. It’s the truth: Dong Hoon cared for her and took care of her needs, but he did not love her with his whole mind, heart and body. And that turned her love for him, in a way, to something more spiteful and vindictive. @ccl82 it literally means 三灾 (from the proverb 三灾八难), literally three calamities or figuratively, disaster. Great spots! More thoughts later.
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    Sorry can someone explain why they are intellectuals? —puzzled—
  15. [Drama 2018] My Mister 나의 아저씨

    One more to add to your list. Episode 7, Yura on failure. “I saw Director and despite being a failure he’s doing fine. It made me realize it’s okay to fail...it’s no big deal.”