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  1. dr25 added a post in a topic [Drama 2015] Yong-Pal 용팔이   

    @ecs707a Reading your overall thoughts made me notice how my brain chased out most of this drama's memories. Didn't know which scenes/ lines you were talking about lol. Think I'll delete it from my hard disk soon too. No rewatch for this.
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  2. dr25 added a post in a topic [Drama 2015] Yong-Pal 용팔이   

    I believe the ending to be the victim of extension and free networks pressure. My emotional detachment with the drama started the moment they rushed the romance but I'm glad the show got so much attention regardless. It would've broke my heart for JW to have two low rating dramas back to back, even if the attention makes it an overrated one. I don't care. It had its good points of course. Some nice OSTs. The first 6 episodes. Also, lack of emotional investment makes me take the dramatized events without feeling any pain, without feeling anything actually which is better for my nerves I know many of you disagree with me and I respect that so I hope I'm not offending anyone by speaking my mind or anything. Have a nice day.
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  3. dr25 added a post in a topic Lee Joon Gi 이준기   

    Hi everyone   first-timer here.
    Okay...so I finished marathoning TSWWTN hours a go and for the last couple of months me and one of my friends started writing a weekly commentary on LJK's 2007 drama Time of Wolf and Dog in the drama's Soompi thread. I also watched both Two Weeks and Joseon Gunman last year. So although I've watched many LJK content (76 episodes in total) this is my first time posting here. I've been meaning to ever since I watched TBWD Nice to meet you.
    I gotta admit that I like LJK's fans as much as I like him lol. I've never seen a KDrama well-documented as TBWD is now, and I'm watching it 8 years after its airing. I came to discover JoonKi late that I feel like I missed on a lot but finding all these materials (English subbed BTSs cuts and fan-made manhwa along with other stuff) felt like an unexpected pat on the back. So thanks fellow fans for celebrating this man so well since early on. Even someone who came late like myself found so much spazz/ fangirl-worthy stuff to dwell on In case new fans like me want to go explore his previous works, here's an hour+ long BTS video from TBDW. It's sooo fun/funny.
    My favorite part is where he tells the MC, "I got drifted here by hanging on to the back of a turtle" haha. Speaking of funny JoonKi, anyone knows of his philosophy for doing melos mainly? Trademark? He doesn't think he's funny? I so wanna see him in a light drama. Why do I have to feel like I'm embarking on a journey of agony and tears whenever I decide to watch a drama of his? I feel so wronged LOL. Just like his characters who are always wronged by someone. Waaaeee?! Can't he make a drama where he doesn't make us fear for his safety? Granted, all these tortured characters get their happy ending by the end but a 15 minutes of smiles doesn't compensate for the hours of worry T__T Soo unfair! Aaaaand....there I went whining XD.
    I've been following him on Instagram ever since I watched him in Two Week, which is, as I said, something I marathoned after it aired too. It's my favorite JK drama along with TBWD. He seems so considerate of his fans; including us as much as he can. Korean actors usually keep it too private. I don't mind that. Nonetheless, it makes me appreciate those who don't show me pics of their pets and food too often more. So thank you JK for keeping us really updated, as much as you can at least.
    I'll be watching his two movies Virgin Snow and The King's Clown soon too. 
    Here's one close-to-my-fangirl-heart scap from TBWD:

    I was expecting some hideous hairstyles but thankfully, I was pleasantly surprised He sported a total of 5 hairstyles in that show, one for each phase of his life as agent Lee So Hyun. One was a near-mullet lol. 
    Here's my favorite JK character in pictures: Kay from TBWD. He's such a badass! Both my friend and sister described him as punchable lol but I L.O.V.E him!
    That's is all guys. Sorry it's long. Thank you so much for making it easier for other fans to find JK-related content. I can't thank you enough. I hope my whining doesn't bother you. I just felt like saying everything I have in mind without much filtering.
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  4. dr25 added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] Second Time 20 Yrs Old 두번째 스무살 | EP 13 Txt/Vid Previews on pgs 128/133   

    'before' I reckon you fled the field then? English isn't my first tongue so it was never useless nor repetitive for me. If I were to take a course in my native tongue however, I would've had second thoughts tho.
    Yes! I saw CWY in I Remember You last month. Marathoned the whole thing within a week  Indeed he's everywhere this year lol. I like him best as Prof. Delulu-nim. I don't know, there was something like a wall between me and his character in I Remember You. Not due to poor acting because being unable to connect with psychopaths is a good sign but dunno. I guess the sync between his version of the character an that of D. O's was a bit off in a way that kept me watching from distance. Of course, psychopaths could change as adults too but still, the creepiness was there but the intensity was gone. Here in Twenty Again even the way he stole those kimpaps the other day cracked me up. Something clicked I guess.
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  5. dr25 added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] Second Time 20 Yrs Old 두번째 스무살 | EP 13 Txt/Vid Previews on pgs 128/133   

    Hehe...as an Englit major some of what I did in college reminds me of what I'm doing in Soompi, watch movies (during lectures) then comment on them with spazzing buddies (class mates+ professor who BTW provides the video) hehe. I did a presentation once with Lee Minho's face in it. You could always find a way to include a scene from a K-drama where they 'say' things (as my examples from languages other than English)  Now I feel spoiled although I remember very vividly how hectic uni was for me XD Actually Ha Nora makes me feel deprived because the only hard time she seems to have, comes from her dynamics, or rather lack of it, with the other students. She barely had any hard time studying which I know isn't the case in RL. She should since she's 'supposedly' 'uneducated'. The way she joined clubs and part-time jobs and do house work on top of that aaaand find time to study is what makes me green with envy. College never felt this way. I had almost zero house work to do, yet there was always too much to read, too much to write, too many assignments, end-term projects. Watching her, I feel like I missed a lot on so many thing, sadly.
    Thank you so very much recappers! I really appreciate your time and effort. I can't wait for the big one to happen. That is, MS discovering his great mighty father's infidelity. It would be my favorite scene in the whole drama.
    I like what the husband's character brings to the drama heheh. He's so funny in the most subtle yet fussy ways. I love him, in that sense only. Like a comical figure. The actor has been very active this year (my third time watching him) and along with his rap breaker line (chigim bowa shimika?!) in KMHM, his role in this series are the ones closest to my heart thus far. Glad the high ratings are bringing him some hard-earned acknowledgments
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  6. dr25 added a post in a topic [Upcoming Drama 2015] Answer Me 1988 응답하라 1988   

    Haha the idea is tempting but I'm afraid if I watch it, I'll start comparing it with BG's upcoming one. What if it sucked lol. Going blind might help me in not fully realizing that. Call me a pessimist lol. I wish you a great watch tho. Maybe I'll do it the other way around and watch it after watching 1988 
    Came here to post these in reaction to BGummy's hair in the poster
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  7. dr25 added a post in a topic Park Bo-Gum - 박보검 - 朴寶劍 Bak Bo-geom Pak Po-kŏm   

    @lilac95 logged in to post the poster but you already did that
    Frankly....I'm not liking the hair  At least not so much. BGummy's face can save the look but it's not like a hairdo that adds to his handsomeness. I should be happy it ain't worse tho cuz it could've been. 80s style and stuff.
    Hola! Nice to meet you @GenZip @heolaaa
    @dahae2006  The video entitled Worse Behavior captured Min-aa's creepiness p.e.r.f.e.c.t.l.y hehe. The Come Home one was on point too. Glad he finally came home to his beloved hyung
    My God! I'm in disbelieve lol. This isn't even elementary school level, kindergarten maybe LoL. Just followed that fan account.
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  8. dr25 added a post in a topic [Drama 2007] Time Of Dog And Wolf 개와 늑대의 시간   


    Don't cry so bitterly. It hurts my heart!
    Episode 13
    Just when I thought we’re having a peaceful episode again.. Seriously, too much feels I hate it. Stop making me worry so much show. I don’t have much to say about the mother of breakdowns SH went thru upon regaining his memories. Whatever I say doesn’t even begin to describe it. One have to watch the real thing to oversee the Feeeels.
    SH's first thought was to kill himself, then Roadrunner talked him into leaving the country, however Chief Jung stopped him and talked him thru the facts; if he leaves, JW will forever be in danger. That among other important facts I didn’t register cuz Chief is too b!tchi I can’t bear to hear his voice. As a result, Kay is back. ( I forced myself to go back to it. Turns out Mao Killed SH's biological father, according to the Chief).
    Orders came to punish Kay who returned ready to accept his punishment but argued still against blindly following the orders, “What if the next order was to kill lady Ari?!”, he said. The peaceful moment illusion I had was created by the new victory Kay had within the Cheongbang. He, Mao and Grffiti (?) killed the big boss back in Thailand. Now Mao is the big boss.
    Thankfully Mr. Suh isn’t dead nor critically injured, thank God! JW met with Kay to ask him about LSH’s watch incident. How did he know? I won’t go into details but she has the ‘feeling’ he’s SH. Like dead sure feel he’s SH. The latter did everything he could to change how she ‘feels’ about the matter including a forced violent kiss. Hurr/lol
    MG tailed Kay to a club where a deal was taking place. Somebody noticed him and brought him in front of Kay for punishment. Boss said to drug him in order to get info out of him. SH couldn’t do a thing. AIISH the look on his face. He stood there watching his hyung being abused. That’s until drugged MG started calling him Soo Hyun-aa! SH could only stop him by beating him senseless lol. In between punches he whispered in MG’s ear, “MinGi-yaa get a grip. I’m SoHyun-aa”. Oh crap. Give me the next episode. ASAP
    Episode 14
    Thought this shot was pretty *_*
    I’m going in circles, writing my thoughts on the events of this drama is basically repeating myself. All I can do is a semi-recap of the events. Really. During the last a few episodes all I’ve been feeling is excitement then tension, or tension then excitement. There’s no point in stating how I feel cuz it has been practically the same for two days now.
    The events are as follows:
    1- Ming Gi-yaaa is in the secret circle now. Finally. Happy reunion brothers! I missed you together guys. T____T I’m happy I might cry.

    Awwwww! Bromance again!
    2- We know JW has a habit of checking other people’s phones XD It lead her to be in the secret circle too. Yaaaaaaaaaaay More the better. My favorite characters are on the same side again. But suppose the one who checked your phone, MG, weren't a friend but an enemy?! tsk tsk.

    It scares me too! Too much fear for everyone's safety I hate it. T__T
    3- Because Kay didn’t kill MG, Mao started suspecting him. So petty followers whom I care not remember their names found it their golden chance to ‘frame’ him as a spy, so they thought. LOL really, he almost died not because they realized he’s a spy but because they framed him as one since he proved to them that he isn’t. *APPLUASE* Kay!
    4- So the two gangsters agreed to frame Kay as a spy. While they were at getting rid of him, JW interrupted them. I love how she used her power as their boss’ daughter to save him although she tried to distant herself from that fact all her life. It’s like she’ll do anything for SH. Aww.
    It's fine I'm late myself.
    Me neither. I thought maybe Chief Jung was the spy. My distrust of him has been established on many occasions already lol.
    I know why I like SH, MG, Roadrunner ajhushi. I have no idea thu how I don't find JW annoying. I think I talked myself into it, "If I allow myself to be annoyed with her, I won't be able to enjoy the show especially since she's at the center of it all. Plus, remember... you like the actress". At moments like these I'm this close from considering her sooo. darn. annoying. I don't necessarly find the results of her interference(s) as annoying thu lol. The confusion her sudden attachment to 'Kay' creates amuses me. Mao asked Kay a couple of times if his sudden detachment (due to memory loss issues) has to do with his daughter Ari. I was so waiting for Mao to declare them a ship lol. His most trusted man marrying his daughter. Being next to Kay for some time softened her heart towards gangster daddy, Mao must've noticed that too. Aish wasted opportunity. I would've loved that pairing. It caught the Stepmother's eye too. Enough to push her jealousy buttons lol to the point of forcefully kissing Kay! I was kinda worried he'd accept her attempts. Imagine the chaos. As if this show needs more of it. On one hand I wondered where that jealousy came from. What is Kay to her again? On the other, I'm not that surprised. She always had subtle but constant interest in Kay. Taking him shopping with her, I'm sure there are many other 'trustworthy' lads whom she can take other than him. Buying him suits he didn't ask for. She never treated him like one of the other underlings. They live together for God's sake. None of them dares to dine with her on the same table like Kay did when they met JW properly for the first time. So I understand that, kinda. Anyhow, JW, for confusing everyone, your interference(s) are forgiven. 
    AH!  Poor man. JW got herself a new boyfriend, Mom is a strong woman she held her ground and late foster father, well, he knows he didn't lose SH. Only MG had it tough because of this. Becoming the most damaged person among them. I can't be more happy for him. Finally, no longer fighting a ghost. 
    Did you notice the sunset in the background..

    Now let's discuss the personality change in SH/ Kay...
    Okay...I have thought the personality change thing over, something I didn't mind before you pointed it out. One problem here is that we're not familiar with the writers work to tell whether they're the lazy type who would allow such hole in their build up of the main character or if they're the nerdy type who tend to have their good reasons, one just have to dig deeper to find them. Since your reasoning pretty much covers the first possibility, I'll be covering the second. For argument sake.
    One reason the personality change is hard to buy has to do with the fact that amnesia doesn't change a person's character. Another fact presents a good reason why SH's transformation into Kay is actually not that unbelievable:

    I extracted this from a lengthy study. While amnesia doesn't change a person's personality, head injury might do. Here's a more detailed table showing the exact aspects of change:

    If the writers did their research properly, then they probably had these kind of facts in mind while sketching Kay. Smirks can go under the increase in childish behavior XD. Other sources: (1, 2). The details vary but the gist is the same; head injuries, like the one SH received, can cause personality change while the cognitive and the physical status remains mostly unchanged.
    You said and JW said that Kay and SH are each other opposite. Meaning the contrast was deliberately drawn. The writers wanted us to see the drastic change. They even gave a psychological reason via Roadrunner ajhushi: it's not that SH couldn't remember, it's more like he didn't want to remember his life as SH. So we have him, subconsciously, being the opposite of his old self. He laughs more unlike serious SH as Mao once observed (the way "pre-tragedy #1" SH could've been), he's no longer the quiet decent SH but the "infuriating" Kay with his cocky vivid personality. In earlier episodes, SH expressed his feelings of entrapment, Kay is his escape vehicle I'd say. I mean, really, which is worse? Being an NIS agent or a killer gangster? I as an average person will take the former. Kay, however, when given the choice to being either, (around episodes 10-13 when he couldn't remember a thing but saw clearly the possibility of being either) refused being agent SH with all his might. Till mighty flashbacks flooded in. One reason why must be his attachment to his current not easily gained life as you suggested. It could also be that deep down he didn't want to go back to his old tortured self burdened by revenge and traumas and whatnot.
    Some characteristics remained thu. Being the best son to whatever father figure he has. The top on his class either at the NIS or the Cheongbang as deputy Boss XD.
    I'm not saying any of this to convince you of anything. I'm more like convincing myself. I hate discussing things with individuals who think they figured everything out and it's therefore their 'duty' to make others see. I'm not doing that to you nor to myself. I just like exploring possibilities and my overthinking nature makes me put maybe too much effort into it.
    P. S: I'm not infuriated by the way Kay carries himself or treats others. I like him a lot actually. His half-cynical half-easygoing way is a point of attraction XD A part (very tiny part) of me enjoyed seeing him driving MG-yaa crazy (oops). We couldn't have gotten the one-on-one fight had he not lol.
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  9. dr25 added a post in a topic Park Bo-Gum - 박보검 - 朴寶劍 Bak Bo-geom Pak Po-kŏm   

    Thank 'you' chingu for Remembering Me XD You're so kind. I apologize for this long post beforehand. After marathoning I Remember You aka Hello Monster I tried backtracking from page 6 but I'm still far behind so here are my overdue comments on both the show and what you guys said in previous pages.
    I Remember You/Hello Monster Post Marathon Thoughts

    This was my first proper glance at creepy BG/Min *shivers*
    I was through with the drama within a week as I thought. I’m writing this two weeks after I’ve watched the last episode. The drama in general is very decent, I think the treatment it received  was pretty unfair. It should’ve been better received. It is pretty convenient/ironic though for a drama that centered around unfair things happening to nice people to receive such low ratings, sadly. Anyhow, that aside here is a commentary on Bugummy’s role throughout the whole 16 episodes:
    What I want to say after the (to-be-continued) backtracking spree:
    I checked it. Enjoyed every bit of it except the part where he said his ideal type should be good at cooking cuz then my chances are next to zero XD He also mentioned a video he sent to all the important agencies when he was in high school in which he sang and plaid the piano, I think this is the video he mentioned. BGumies pre-debut video:
    There's this tone in his voice that only comes out when he sings upbeat songs. It's not that smooth; his voice turns a bit husky that's why people might think he can't sing that well. Which isn't true as the video above proves I'm in love with the sorta-husky version of his voice as well hehe. He has been in a talent agency since highschool originally training to be a singer. Meaning he's undergone the necessary breath control or whatnot basics a singer should cover. Not to forget his formal uni studies as a music major. Certainly if he's to meet a good composer who can write music that suits his voice best; shows its most beautiful qualities, his sound in that much hoped for OST would feel like a warm blanket.
    Hahah I laughed at this video so hard that I called my sister to watch too. (Yes being a member in BoGummie's ministry is genetic ). Wonderful Mamma and Wonderful Days are the only dramas of his that I'm never gonna watch. I can't do family dramas. I just can't. I swear I tried forcing myself to sit thru WD but I felt like a masochist so thank you @maiwun for giving us all the chance to watch his performance in one of them.
    I pray he'd have such hilarious side to him in Reply 1988.
     I think the crucial thing is... he too is a diehard fan for someone. Exo for instance. Fame hasn't gotten into his head yet (hopefully it'll never do) to make him forget how much effort and sincerity that fan must've put together in order to bring him that gift. He knows what a fan would feel if he showed that much appreciation to her/him, which he did. Thank you BG-shi. After watching Hello Monster mainly for him, I checked D.O.'s work and did I become an Exo fan! lol To think that in that sense BG has turned me, his fan, into a fellow fan of his bias, he sure is an awesome Exo fan.
    There's also an I-Remember-You-Related reason I can think of:
    Dear I've seen your clips. Just wanted to thank you for they are so well-made. Captions were translated following the styling of the original captions as close as possible, and those meticulous head notes. Although I studied translation formally at uni, Korean isn't a language I can translate from-to or else I would've helped. I know how much time and effort you're putting into this so thanks a lot chingu-del.
    Welcome! I bookmarked the links you provided and watched Blind via one of them, Kumawa-yo.
    You know what I'm planning to do in order to get my bestie on beard the BG fandom? I know there's no way she'd realize his awesomeness if I told her there's this brilliant young actor who did so and so due to her skeptical see-for-your self nature (like myself) so we agreed to watch Reply 1988 together. She doesn't know he stole my heart yet lol but I trust he'll do me pride by stealing hers with his performance. I'm counting on you BG. When that happens, I'll have my proud noona smile too
    I've always thought a religious young man cute. He's no exception. I hope his religious upbringing has provided him with the rooting/faith necessary to overcome whatever difficulties he might face in his career, God forbid of course. And I too want him to have an account on Insta. All my other biases are there, BG come to the dark side too will you.
    Here's a gift then
    BTS of YoonHoo's best performances, the Mamboo performance:
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  10. dr25 added a post in a topic [Drama 2015] Yong-Pal 용팔이   

    I just can't get over the fact that his sister's name is Kim So Hyun LOL. I'm marathoning The Moon that Embraces the Sun currently and when they mentioned her full name today all I saw was this:

    I'm almost fighting my imaginary tears here because i.m.a.g.i.n.e if Yong Pals sibling was indeed the Kim Soo Hyun. My God! The bromance! Aish..they put the possibility out there then left us hanging. My KimPal brotherly relationship... *sigh* so not gonna happen T___T But really here, why give a drama character a celeb's name? I'm sure they're never gonna be naming a character...let's say... Park Guen Hye for instance. I know there are many Kim(s) in Korea and SoHyun is a fairly common name so it's not at all that farfetched and the spelling for both names (the RL actor's and the character of the sister's) might be different but still I dare believe the collective memory in Korean culture, and feel free to correct me, links the the name to that particular actor so why confuse my brain writer-nim
    P. S:
    - Gradients in the capture show my rainbow-ed fangirl vision.
    - And there's actress Kim So Hyun too.
    - I know it's impossible for writers to avoid certain name combinations for such reason that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it's nonetheless confusing/amusing. My brain can't un-link the names
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  11. dr25 added a post in a topic [Drama 2007] Time Of Dog And Wolf 개와 늑대의 시간   

    Exactly my feelings ajhushi. Thank you!
    Episode 11
    So Chief Jung does want to pull SH out. Or maybe…NIS last failure to stop the new product smuggling forced him to try pulling him out. We’ll see.
    In sum, MG & JW are no more cuz, 1- As he and his new Outside Team were investigating Cheongbang he stumbled upon the fact that JW is Mao’s daughter. What does a trained agent do at such situations? Move with utmost discretion? No, confront her in the most unpleasant of ways. He kinda slammed her against a door asking, “Why did you hide it from me?! I would’ve loved you regardless of whose daughter you are”. She was taken aback for a second but then she shot, “How did you know?”. HA! Bye bye trust between a couple. 2- Again as he was investigating Cheongbang, Kay in particular, he with well-based doubts barged into the gallery where JW works, franticly checked random boxes looking for drugs. JW couldn’t take it, cuz if his claims were true then her good foster dad is in it too? She’s been used by both her fathers to smuggle drugs? Nah that can’t be. Trying to stop MG from continuing his random check, she slapped him across the face. Ouch! One thing lead to the other, she broke up with him. Okay…the thing about MG is… following his father’s death, he kinda lost it. I kept on scapping him previously cuz I loved how clean and neat and awesome he used to look. Now look at him:

    Homeless style much?
    Really, he has no breaks to keep him in check ever since his father ‘and brother’ passed away. (RIP dear Mr. Hang. It’s too empty without you. Now I know how important you were).
    [Plot twist]
    The boxes in the gallery had drugs hidden in them actually. MG was just unlucky to have chosen the wrong boxes to inspect. So yeah. Attitude does matter. For contrary to frantic MG, we had Kay who kept his calm even when MG was this close from finding the goods hidden under his nose. He watched everything without breaking a sweat. What nerves! He even demanded an apology. Had Roadrunner not been there to stop MG, Kay would’ve fought with him.
    There’s a crucial must-discuss point here. SH’s readiness to become a gangster. We didn’t see him reflect on those gang bosses he ordered dead. Nor did we see him give a second thought to dragging JW into the drug smuggling business. He stated that his heart isn't pure like hers but he said that so objectively without the emotional weight. I feel like he’s gone to the other side completely. Also, back then, SH was everyone’s favorite, now he just has so many enemies because he’s boss’ favorite. When he got that message inviting him to a picnic at the Art Basement, I had no way of guessing who could’ve sent it. I thought maybe the one who gutted late Mr. Kang might’ve set a trap for him. Maybe Ah Hwa’s jealousy reached a point where he couldn’t control it thus he told someone about his memory loss. Maybe maybe maybe. So many possible enemies, I fear for Kay’s safety. So the question is…what is it that makes us who we are? Nature or nurture? He was a respectful righteous agent when his foster father was one, now that he’s Mao’s son, he became a cold-hearted criminal. How much of us is made by our memories? Former experiences? It really is a big question. Can’t wait to hear what you have to say about it @ecs-shi (I assume you're not buying the transformation in the first place to contemplate it, right?) or maybe you have so no further comments as this counts for an answer:
    Episode 12
    [ Marathon Spree Day 5]

    Ajhushi you're growing on me. Your wise most needed observations are just...*hand on heart*
    Can't you just listed to him MG?
    I have a new favorite classical drama! One of the best memory loss recovery processes I’ve seen in a Kdrama. I l.o.v.e.d it! I freaking loved it.
    First of all…God d@amn your stupidity Kay oppa! Why go tell Mao secret NIS agent thinks you’re one of them?! How idiotic of you!? I respect writer-nim for making him do that since of course he’d discuss something as big with the center of calmness in his life; the one who taught him who he is after he lost his memories but still…oppa that was soooo stupid. Aiiish!
    Min gi-yaa managed to talk JW’s daddy into cooperating with them. JW also realized she was used by both her parents as an oblivious drug smuggler. Therefore, she, daddy, and MG were on the same page. That is to bring Cheongbang down. A thorough investigation of EB enterprise (Mao’s legal front) was their first move.  That of course provoked big boss back in Thailand to give orders: kill Mr. Suh. Cha cha cha cha!
    Meanwhile, Kay was taken on yet another picnic thru his memories line at the basement. He was shown a recoding that I personally never saw. It was taken in 2005 during his training days to become Kay. Who was training him? Late Mr. Kang whom he called, “father”, by the end of the recording. Huf! He refuses to take what General Manger told him as facts. Who would?!
    Wanting to make sure he’s not Lee So Hyun, probably cuz he didn’t want to be someone like SH, or maybe he just wanted to have a prove at hand that he isn’t in case gangster daddy figure demanded one. Anyhow, wanting to do so he sought Roadrunner’s help. From that he got a CD (I hate CDs cuz eventually someone is gonna find them). It contained info on LSH’s parents. Another key fact was the old watch Kay has on him. Lee SoHyun used to have one that looked exactly the same. Up until this point he hasn’t gotten as much as a fragment of his memory back leave alone the classical flashbacks. Nothing. Zero. Just pieces of info he learnt from several sources God knows if he can trust. On a whim he goes to JW, asks her if her dead lover who looked exactly like him had a watch. If its glass was broken. The watch doesn’t work right? To his surprise and hers the answer was positive. Before they could continue their conversation, MG arrived. A punch here, a push there, Kay who didn’t fight back went his own way. Poor thing looked like a wounded dog at that moment.
    We’re not even near the peak of the events for this episode. Kay goes home with too much on his plate, looking like he just saw a ghost as Boss’ wife puts it. Seconds later, he and the rest of the boys were summoned. Mao breaks the news to them. It has been confirm, via his spy in the NIS *gasps*, Ari’s father is the one who rat on them. Orders from the organization are to kill him. The boss doesn’t miss the dilemma he’s faced with but no-longer-cool-headed Kay pleads that he get rid of Mr. Suh himself. Despite Ari’s dad initial objection, he insisted and hence got the job. I hate this! If he kills JW’s father then there’s no going back for him as SH. Even if the NIS pulled him out. That’s the point of no return. My heart can’t handle these misfortunes any more. I’m too young for this $hit.
    In an attempt to dig in his gangster heals, ‘Kay’ shot Mr. Suh twice. Before he could finish the job, JW is in the room. She’s in his position 13+ years ago.

    That brought old memories. The gun slipped from his trembling hands. He found himself running to the car and there he started remembering everything. I’ve waited ages for this moment to come. Welcome flashbacks.

    The reason I love this memory recovery process dearly is because they took the road less traveled with it. The easy way to remember would be the sudden glimpses of memory sneaking into his current Kay conscious when he stood in front of all those familiar people in all those familiar places. I've seen that so many times enough to warmly welcom the refreshing change. I don't even mind the fact that they had to blind MG from recognizing his own brother to achieve that. Be it blinded by anger, grief, denial, or all of these. I'm just glad he didn't get an easy way out of his amnesia. He could appreciate his life as SH better I guess and stop being all, "Oh I'm too sad to live on without my revenge" and so.
    It does indeed lol.
    In case you were wondering...that was Chief Jung for me. I don't like this person; he clearly knows more than he's telling. Judging by your assumption about SH's fake amnesia, he must be your (does he know or not?).
    I hadn't thought about it. Let's see...this watch originally belonged to SH's late (bio) father. SH's mom passed it on to him on the night she was murdered. Actually the reason it broke is because SH dropped it seconds before masked Mao came into the room and shot her. Here you go. The significance of the watch. SH's life stopped at the moment his mother died such wrongful death. 
    I know I'm messing up the numeral order here but to keep the relational order intact I'm pushing our amnesia-personality discussion back to Ep 13 when Roadrunner adds his view on what caused SH's amnesia. Something I like to include after we get there
    As usual I added my afterthoughts to the month old commentary in blue to differentiate them from my instant raw ones.
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  12. dr25 added a post in a topic [Drama 2007] Time Of Dog And Wolf 개와 늑대의 시간   

    Ode to Kay's most amusing cockiness. NIS agents or not, he doesn't give a $hit hehe
    Episode 9
    I’m devastated! You might as well rip my heart out and trample all over it show, HUH!? There are no boundaries! Everyone is sacrifice -able for the story to get even more and more intense! I love-hate this! Get me a boring show that doesn’t mess with my emotions instead T______T
    SH’s father died while trying to get his son out of the gang. What a honorable death at that. Stabbed, he was pushed off an escalator going downwards. What does he do? He still has things to say to SH. SH doesn’t know who he is yet. So the camera leaves us with Kay who for some reason he doesn’t quite get didn’t flee the scene. Seconds later, we see daddy emerging from the escalator going upwards. Struggling with his breathing still trying to tell So Hyun-aaa something. My heart! He wanted to help his son get his identity back so badly! Although another gangster killed him, it was pinned on Kay who stood there watching the old man. Before he could lean down to hear what he was striving to say, MG CAME! The latter jumped at Kay, beat him as hard as he could without taking a second to look at his face. Maybe he did look at it but, blinded by anger, he didn’t see his brother in the gangster who killed his dad. Same thing happened at the NIS HQ when MG stormed in saying he’ll kill Kay for killing his dad. Although I’m positive Kay doesn’t have any blood on his hand from this one. The one who stabbed Mr. Kang was the other gangster, and the one who I’m sure did something to daddy after he was admitted to the hospital was the general manger. The camera zoomed in to his face in that revealing old times way. Plus, it’d be easier for him if he’s the only one who knows the whole story. I suspect Roadrunner is in danger too now.
    Before the unfortunate incident, MG finally  introduced JW to his parents but daddy didn’t approve of her cuz her blood connection with Mao will make MG lose his job. Of course with MG jealousy of his supposedly dead brother, he didn’t even try to understand. I don’t like how narrow-minded this makes him look.  Sigh. Again and again he’s competing with a ghost.
    JW also got to meet SH as Kay and even sit with him at the same table they sat at 2-3 years ago. This time however, she thinks there’s no way a low-life who considers her criminal father his father can be her beloved righteous SH. Good, now let’s see on episode 10 if the NIS would share the same opinion upon interrogating Kay.
    I admire MG’s mom resolve. She was stronger than MG when things got tough.
    Episode 10

    This is unfair! I’m dying with excitement although not much happened. Only that those a few things were of great significance.
    We got to know for sure, Roadrunner sold information that lead to SH’s mother death 15 years ago. General manager/Chief Jung used this piece of info to threaten him not to tell everyone that Kay = SH + memory loss. *sigh* I don’t know if I can trust Jung. It says how well-written/well-performed the character is. One can’t expect the head of NIS to be readable. Tension point number one. Is he getting SH back or is he not? What will happen if SH committed unforgivable crimes, even for a black agent, before he does? Will he hold him responsible? How? Kill him and add a star to the monument? That’s it?
    Tension point number two, MG. God! I feel for his loss but his rashness is adding insult to injury. He doesn’t even know what he’s getting himself into. I hate this. MG is in the dark SooHyun-aa, help him! Find your memories fast and go back please.
    That leads us to tension point number three. AHHAHAHAAHAHAH all that time spent next to JW. I was like…he might have the traditional memory back flashbacks at any second now. Darn it. AAHAHAHAH. And no he didn’t even when he stood in front of that Sharingan painting at her foster father’s resort. Or, I thought, maybe she’ll notice the tattoo on his arm as he treated the injury he got protecting her from those thugs. I could hardly care before about their dates or sweet time together. Now, however, I do. If anyone can bring back the SH in Kay, that would be SW. I wasn’t worried about Mao, he’ll live. Too early for the main villain’s exit . BUT STILL… I didn’t know how he was gonna make it, or at what cost. That was tension point number four.

    Speaking of the Sharingan painting, here's another shot of the sunset.
    To conclude they have to make it to the special number five. That is the cliffhanger—Kay is face to face with MG at the Thai restaurant. The latter heard the former asking JW, who was there too cuz Thai restaurants are where people go when injured, if he can take her handkerchief as a token. Ooops!
    That obvious huh? XD I had this post-posting realization. Maybe my question should've been "When wasn't he brave and reckless?". In Ep 3 he dumped the mission assigned to him by the NIS to attack Mao alone as if great gang boss wouldn't have the necessary protection; in Ep 4 he thought leaching onto some random Mao subordinate would lead him to Mao. Which is not only brave and reckless but dumb as well. Had it not been for MG, JW, and Roadrunner's help, that move might've killed him. The list can go on...
    Quoting just to point out my favorite part of your commentary this week.
    This is the part I went back to Ep 9 for. I'm pretty sure they meant it in a general sense because I don't think his training instructs him to keep a copy of his fake identity info on him in whatever form. (Plus, after 2 years of living as Kay he must memorize that file by heart so no need to keep it). Even if he had something of the sort, he wouldn't leave it in a place where anyone can find it. So either they meant it in a general sense therefore Kay doesn't have such thing now. Or he actually has something of the sort but doesn't have access to it since he lost his memory. Either ways, he didn't/can't read/watch it.
    The show didn't walk us step by step thru the process. We got to see, however, that Kay got himself acquainted with the necessary info one must know about himself. I didn't think he invented it, I thought his roommate Ah Hwa filled him in. He was with him back in Thailand so SH must've told him the invented background story back then. Now Ah Hwa just told Kay what SH told him before (what goes around comes around awesome cycle *_*). Since Mao advised both of them to keep his memory loss a secret, I'm sure he's believing and endorsing such story as a defense mechanism. He can't say something like, "Well, I'm not really sure but I was told so and so about myself". That might be the reason why we don't see him showing many expected signs of confusion; he can't afford showing weaknesses in his current surrounding nor falling into self-doubt.
    Like suspicious of himself that he's actually an undercover NIS agent who made himself a place next to the man he now respects and consider his father only to destroy and kill him? Even thu he knows he's different now, what can he do about it?! He can't remember how he used to act therefore he can neither fake that nor worry about it. It's useless to worry about things you can't change. And of course one would act differently if he has amnesia so why get suspicious?
    Is it a good thing? To expect such plot twists from a show?
    Welcome to the thread I've watched all four. Real spoilers ahead.
    You hit the nail on the head. Although for me, following LJK's career was in the reversed order (latest to older dramas) I second this. I've known him to be a decent actor after I watched Two Weeks but I kept my distance. I'm following him on Instagram so he's been in my almost daily newsfeed for sometime but I only considered myself a fan after watching TBWD. Like before, I wouldn't check the ratings of his current drama to see if it's doing okay even if I'm not watching or read every line Wikipedia has on him XD Haven't left a post/note of appreciation at his Soompi home yet but I'm intending to. Gonna watch Virgin Snow and the King's Clown soon too. I knew about these two movies before but I didn't care enough to watch them. Now I do
    Honestly, at such scenes I end up assuming the writer's perspective. Following their line of thought through the way they choose to lead the drama. It kept me amused throughout the show. Like when MG didn't freeze or recognize SH when he saw him I was thinking, "So writers chose to pass on this golden opportunity for a reunion. Ummm let's see if you can create a better one". Doing that often made it easier for me to find excuses for them all the time No idea why I can do such thing with certain writers but not with others. I guess you could say the writers won me over 100% which made me quite forgiving
    This is perfect. LJK posted this to his insta today. Universal signs much? @Ecs-shi cover your ears
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  13. dr25 added a post in a topic [Drama 2007] Time Of Dog And Wolf 개와 늑대의 시간   

    This episode doesn't have a header capture because as it turns out I haven't taken any during my marathon. Apparently I was too eager to see what's gonna happen next, pausing to take one felt like. too. long. a. delay I couldn't afford XD Anyhow, I scanned thro Ep 7 and took 3 captures none of which fits here
    Episode 7
    I haaaait this! I keep on watching one episode after the other. I can’t stop. I lost control. This ONE is my favorite so far. I was at the edge of my seat the whole time. It gave the full story on what caused the opening scene. JW saw SH while he was rescuing her! *AAAAAAAA*
    *Takes a deep breath*
    The chain of big event(s) started with SH discovering Mao’s work plan at last. Upon that he decided that it’s his last day as a subordinate of his. Before he got the chance to shoot Mao, Mao asked him to protect his daughter, Ari. The shocking truth about his mother’s killer being his lover’s father whom he was introduced to before rendered him crazy. Really.. seen the look on his face ? Wanjun michusoo. One point counts for the writer is that SH never recognized Mao’s face as Ari’s dad before. Who remembers the face of their (short-term) childhood friend’s father? So thank you for being sensible writer-nim.

    Kay/SH breakdown near the Han river
    While he was watching over JW, something he’s been doing anyway ever since he came to Korea and found that watch on his grave (what a weird thing I just said XD), a gang opposing both her fathers attacked her in an attempt to kidnap her. Who was watching? Right, uri SH/Kay. So he of course rushed to her rescue and while doing that his car fell into the ocean AND JW saw his face. Attending at the scene was MG who came too late for the fun. Thus missed seeing any of that and just embraced JW before she fully lose conscious.
    Wait! The excitement isn’t over yet. What happened to Kay? Nobody knows but everybody cares. Mao was looking, Daddy was too, the Korean gang he encountered third. So…where is he? What happened to him? It is a truth universally acknowledged that every LJK drama has a scene where he drowns into deep waters, wounded. Still… despite it being a repetitive act my heart sank as he drowned. I might’ve even joined my hands in excitement and agony here and there throughout the episode
    [Intersection before I mention the current shocking situation]
    I was wrong. MG wasn’t the one meant for a heart break but my poor SH. He’s the tortured first lead AND the third-wheel. Ouch! This is too much! T___T Yet he brought it on himself. What did he think? She’ll wait for him til he gets back? Even if she did, would she trust him? Would anyone? He lied about a ‘life or death’ situation as we know . I wouldn’t trust him.
    [Back to what happened to Kay]
    He was treated by old halmonies who found him by the seashore. The next morning, we learn that he…wait for it…remembers nothing! Tada! I wholeheartedly forgive this major cliché because: most of those around him think he’s a gangster and those who know he isn’t think he died long time ago. This leaves us with an identity problem. That could get philosophical at any moment and I love that. The Korean gang (Spider gang) came to the old lady’s house and took him for a ride on their average gang torture storage. They’ll treat him as Mao’s right-hand man, will he live up to their expectation? If he believes he’s a gangster would he become one for real? Would he develop feelings of gratitude, during his state of memory loss, towards Mao if he saved him from the Korean gang before his father does? Can’t wait.
    Lastly, allow me to pronounce a director crush. After the (relatively) realistic excellently-executed car chase I fell for the directing. Period. Bear in mind it was shot 8 years ago. The plane crash in 2006 Nodame Cantabile was a disgrace. 2014 Blood car hit scenes are forever a shame. Therefor, applause to old but gold.

    You can tell he was rescued by some granny from the way she hanged his Samsung phone alongside his belt and pants. And look, she took extra care of the battery
    Episode 8
    [Marathon spree Day 4]

    “Even if you lose your memory, I still remember you. You’re my son, Kay”, said Mao.
    I was right! Writer-nim is so after my heart :D. Now.. how did we get to the conclusion above? The Korean gang that took Kay forced him to call his boss into their trap which he had no problem doing since he doesn’t remember this Mao guy anyhow. Mao knew it’s a trap but came still cuz he owes Kay two big favors. At the trap, an encounter took place and Kay killed the Korean gang president in defense of Mao’s life. On their way out Ah Hwa told Mao about Kay’s memory loss condition. To which he responded as mentioned before. YAAAAAY! Oppa got a promotion. Daddy was watching the friendly conversation between the two. It reassured him his son is safe and sound and so is his cover but he still doesn’t know about SH mental state. Excitement is killing me. We are left with two things, SH believing he’s a hardcore gangster thanks to muscle memory and current surrounding. The other thing is Daddy worrying about the lack of contact with his son. These two factors combined will lead to NIS doubting SH’s loyalty among other unexpected awesome complications I’m sure. The question is…what does the NIS do to those hold as traitors?
    Let's take a moment to appreciate LJK's eye acting, shall we? This is the moment when Mao announced him second in command. The way he looks at Mao is different from before. He's still evaluating the situation since he remembers nothing but he's starting to genuinely like this man nonetheless. How he apparently cares for him, as he claims. The new gained status. The tabula rasa SH is allowed him some new opportunities his old self would've loathed. I love this! And of course he was given a new hairdo denoting the change. He's Kay now. Even between him and himself.

    In addition to the previous important development we have another one with what JW saw the other episode, SH’s face. Her boyfriend thinks she’s delusional and that she longs for him too much to the point of seeing him in everyone she meets. Would’ve Awww-ed at this had MG not been so angry about it. She doesn’t buy his assumption immediately but she did eventually. However before she did, she tried drawing her savior’s face then, feeling like she can't take it anymore, she called (real) daddy to make sure who was the guy he sent. Daddy knew it was her on the other end although she didn’t say a word before hanging up. Missing his daughter, I guess, he drove to her house. Conveniently, he asked Kay to drive him there cuz, I assume, he doesn’t want new lads around his weakness and Kay he can trust her with. Thank you show for trying your best not to make things total coincidences. When he arrived Ari reluctantly agreed to talk with him for a second. She told him she gets what she couldn’t understand  as a child. His long trips and her mother’s worries. So what if she asked him to leave the organization, will he do it for her sake? Cuz it’s how he could become a good father to her. Of course the answer is…no. Therefore she has only one father, it isn’t him. What we get from this episode mostly can be summed in one sentence. Humanizing the villain.
    He’s not an ungrateful $hit who would dump someone who served him as loyally as Kay did cuz he got hurt in the process. He accepted the Korean gang members into his gang after they became lost without a leader, without humiliating them or cutting their fingers (really?! XD). An entrance fee they were more than willing to pay. Also with his daughter. He isn’t calculating when it comes to her. He’s not the gang master, he’s just an ordinary father. He welcomed her with open arms after her 13 years of not-fully explained absence, then he respected her wishes to keep on living away from him while he could’ve forced her. Furthermore, he still protected her after she told him she wants nothing to do with him. And now…a phone call I’d personally consider insulting made him come running to her cuz she’s his daughter. No more no less. He’s like most of us in a that sense. Most importantly, not a total trash as we’ve thought all along. All that happened under Kay’s eyes, who btw smiles more often now. He had this (kyia-worthy) look in his eyes when JW saw him getting into the car as gangster daddy’s driver. If he doesn’t regain his memory soon I think I’ll start rooting for the baddie Kay over SH myself.

    I shall note how Thailand wasn't chosen haphazardly. I'm not a Thai citizen therefore I tried my best not to base my opinion on whatever stereotyped image I might've subconsciously picked up. TBWD lead me to do some reading on human and drug trafficking in Thailand and the end result was that it ain't a lie as per Wikipedia, 1, 2, and many other sources. Kay's work during his time in Thailand was chosen based on that image. Big well-rooted Cheongbang gang headquarters as well. In 2003 the PM of Thailand announced a War on Drugs. If that says anything, it says there is a drug issue and everybody acknowledges that. The articles I listed gave plenty of reasons why. You may read them if you're interested but all I wanted to point out here is that Thailand wasn't chosen randomly or to gain We Shot Abroad boasting rights. In addition, the drama didn't just paint Thailand as a scary heaven for criminals. It gave a fair depiction. Thailand is where the love story in the show started. Where the hero spent his childhood. We've seen those beautiful places in which the shooting took place. 11 year old SH would ditch school to go play with his friends in the river. Nothing bad happened to him then. It's safe enough. All in all, I think the dram gave a balanced realistic image of Thailand. And heay the gang in Thailand consists mostly of Koreans XD How is that for a we-are-in-this-together message?
    I think there's no difference between MG and SH in being Mr. Kang's own sons. True, for us they are a family that came together over a night, but for the 3 (or 4 if we include the mother) of them they have been a real family for 13+ years. What makes an adopted child more of a real son than the biological one?! And if a person has a heart kind enough to take a stranger as his own flesh and blood imagine how much love his heart has for the one who has always been his son?

    I went back to Ep 5. Scapped this just to show you that he did hesitate. You of all people should've noticed the look in his eyes lol. Also, I forgot that he offered his own job on top of MG's. If it's a matter of who favors whom then I guess he favors SH over himself. Like a real parent would do. Awwww
    You're invested in this That's the show's doing not necessarily the characters'. Therefore I don't hate dad. As I said before, since very early in the drama the two brothers are meant to be set against each other. This is just that piling up. The writers are smart. Very smart, with this one subplot at least. They created the most perfect situation for such bitter feelings to grow. They used the ironic dead/alive brother info skillfully to make us feel bad for MG because we understand his feelings, "competing against a ghost" that is, yet be somewhat okay with it, unless you're MG bias lol, because on the other hand father knows SH is alive and in constant danger so how in the world would he act as if he were not. I see what you mean. I totally feel for MG, it's absolutely justifiable and yes dad has been more attentive to SH ever since the undercover topic surfaced but still. That 'but still' feeling is what makes this story worth while.
    The thing is...MG isn't proving them wrong, sadly. Even if it weren't the case at start, him misunderstanding/misreading the situation as constantly comparing him to SH makes it worse. I think it's partly his fault. Why follow your brother into the NIS when it isn't your passion? God didn't create girls in the world but your brother's ex? And you thought your brother's department is awesome now that he died? I don't see how I can't compare him to his brother when he keeps following his brother's steps. I'm not saying he's a non-character or anything. I wouldn't dare! I'm saying it's too late now to ask for that MG.
    See? It's his love for his brother that made him hang on to those parts of SH. That very way of expressing his love lead people to misunderstand his motives and eventually it's starting to lead him to misunderstand theirs too. I feel like he's not trusting Mr. Kang enough to be the loving father I think he is. I don't blame him but but but...
    I think it's her current state of mind that prevented her from thinking, "Oh! SH's voice. It must be him". After all, MG talked some sense into her near that gallery, then again in the car. I doubt she'd give in to such thoughts. I was waiting for her to recognize his voice too but then I thought, even if she sensed the similarity, she'd probably think, "Oh it's my imagination again. This time I'm hearing SH everywhere". Twisted! Writers writers!
    For me, the elephant simply stands for SH's old self. When that drowned, weighed by the chain or not, he lost his identity. That was our last time seeing SH as we know him. The one we saw from that point on is Kay. Even Kay doesn't know he's SH. Ha!; He wouldn't recognize the elephant if he saw it.
    Gonna write this now but don't see it till you're through with the drama. I feel it's somewhere between spoilfic and nonsensical if you read it now.
    What are you talking about? SH has always been brave. When was he reckless? I don't remember. Didn't that shootout kinda forced itself on him? Kill or be killed kinda situation.
    I had the same doubts as I was marathoning. Hehe another (does he know or not?) moments. I promise another character will make for yet another source by next week. I won't say who but I bet a billion won s/he will.
    I don't recall. I'm too lazy to go scan thru the 3 possible episodes where I think they said it but I have the second-best answer. MBC's official translation says cilantro too. I don't eat food with cilantro in it. I'm staying with MG-oppa in the light.
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  14. dr25 added a post in a topic [Drama 2007] Time Of Dog And Wolf 개와 늑대의 시간   

    @ecs707a The thing is... I wasn't sure if 'more fun' to you meant more laughable moments. You said it's fun, when I kept reading to see why, I found that it has more funny moments in relation to the previous ones. And laughable moments were good signs. My bad. Although bashing isn't necessarily used in its most negative sense here either. I know you're not someone to point things out without good reason. That's why I laughed too. I thought, 'she has a point, it is funny, sadly'. So the bashing I used meant making fun, with a good reason, of some of the drama's most serious moments.
    You know what legit statistics say, "7 out of 10 women fall for MG's charms".

    Maybe uri MG is a first piece in a domino   
    As I was writing this my sister sneaked a peak at the folder where I keep my TBWD scaps. She made fun of MG's glasses looks, then of agent SH's hair. Now there's you and my sister 'bashing'.
    I've been meaning to say this for some time now. MBC's Official Youtube account has uploaded the full drama with English subs in full HD as of 2012. So we can legally stream this and share its links here without feeling like we're doing something wrong or endangering beloved Soompi. I love how it's been given the privilege of a classical along with shows like Queen Seondeuk. 
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  15. dr25 added a post in a topic Park Bo-Gum - 박보검 - 朴寶劍 Bak Bo-geom Pak Po-kŏm   

    Hi @vannie05 @dahae2006 @mymilkysu @fleurofjasmine @ilchul *shakes hand with you*
    Welcome to the thread! And thanks for the goodies.
    I'm following the thread therefor every time someone posts something here, Soompi emails me their post. I was happy to be receiving so many notifications from the Bugummy house over the last week. Some of you guys mentioned his role in HM calling it creepy. You got me curious enough to watch the drama. I have it on me. As I have been planning to marathon it soon as it's over. Was waiting for the mood to start a new drama. Thought I just drop by, say hello to everyone with a bugummy smile before I do. It won't take me more than a week to finish it XD If he can pass as a creepy murder suspect or what not, I'll be forever in owe to his acting skills as I currently am to his smiley face. He can pass as a happy young brother with a bright future like in BM, a handsome conductor in pain/with a crush like in NC but a creepy character?! I have got to see that.
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