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  1. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    I rewatched the episode 12, this time enjoying the pace and the details. First time I was ansious to know what will happen and as one could expect, I lost many important things and meanings. Whatching it "slowly" makes me understand better what is going on (at least, I hope I did it ).
    First, I think that when ED said to EH "I'm sorry" for not keeping her promissed (marry him), it doesn't necessary follow that she didn't keep her promisse because she married another man, but could just mean what is a fact: they know each other since 20 years and the aren't married; the time that they should get married was in their 20's, it would happened if she wasn't got involved in the accident. Anyway, I think that the marriage issue will be one of the last "mystery" to be solved in this drama, I don't think it will become clear to us next week (hope I'm wrong!!).
    SR said she wants EH loose everything (friends, money, woman, career) and then he will come to her begging. Well, she is also delusional lol. I think she will get nothing, because I'm sure even HB will stick with EH, and he will have the support of his family too.
    And I felt the same as @seungshin at the end of this episode: happy! I can't believe that a story that have such a ep. end full of joy, hope, love and will to battle the world could have a sad end. To me, the message is that of hope, but the route to the happiness will be tough!
    Hope the writer doesn't disapoint us .
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  2. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    Not only SR, JH too!
    It is true that SR misunderstood ED out of ignorance and JH out of his delusional mind, but the fact is both think/thought ED is seduced by EH fame and money. In a way, their mind works in a similar way.
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  3. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    I think this is a good explanation, although she remembers her past, everything is still new and confusing, there are many issues to deal at once. Makes sense that she connects the dots slowly. But I think she knows already RI is EH's son, and this is why she calmly and softly said "I'll take RI with me" even after JH have said RI will stay with him. But about the marriage, it is possible, as you said, that she isn't already aware the legal and criminal implications that a wedding performed in her conditions has; that it is completely illegal.
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  4. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    Wow Soompi was a mess today!!! However the episode was deabak
    Ok, my guess was totally wrong: it was step dad who contacted the reporter lol This is why I never play lotto, my guess bet is always wrong lolol. I was very surprised with it.
    Any way, I still think it was a really bad movie. From the desbelief of the reporter, I think that he will dig in and find the truth. After this bad movie, I think that stepdad really believe that HS was pursuing ED, that he was a bad guy. I think that he just believe in JH, add to it the fact that JH helped him before. But, maybe again my guess is totally wrong lol.
     
    What let me still without answer is the question of marriage. Till now it seems that some offical act was performed?!?! To me, this is still a mystery. Why ED said "I'm sorry" for not keeping the promisse?!? Because even if she isn't legal married she feels herself married? In any case, after the memor loss any "official marriage" under false pretence isn't legal, I think this is the case in any country, right?
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  5. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    When ED said that, she hadn't recover her memories yet. What she had back then was EH impression - "ED had a boyfriend" and her feelings, which we can infer told her she wasn't into the other guy. What I mean is, on one hand she had EH's affirmation "ED has a boyfriend", on the other hand, she feels something wasn't right, so her conclusion: ED was going to break with him. I really can't see why ED without memory saying that is more "true" than the rest of evidences that we have now and what shows she wasn't dating JH.
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  6. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    EH told to JE (not yet ED) that ED was never afraid with him!!!!
     
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  7. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    Now that I see the love making scenes for the second time after people here ponted out it was JH's dream, I know why I thought it was a bit weird, and wasn't really engaged.
    However, if this is very romantic and, for reasons of "moral" - I think the writer didn't wish let room to someone think/imagined EH-ED had an illicit affair - they didn't make love, on the other hand I really think it hard to believe that - in the actual life - they would just literally sleep together after ten years of repressed passion lol, and particularly because ED knew she wouldn't be cheating any husband. Yeah, I know it is very romantic and I can buy it within the story, nonetheless ....  
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  8. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    To me it's quite simple: they read her name wiritten on her notebook. I think that ED only uses her adopted name in official situations or in adopt parents environment. To her close friends, HS, not official occasions (or when not questioned) and on her personal belongs she wore her own name ED.
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  9. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    Again I feel the need to clarify or strenghty my opinion about JH's character.
    As I said (maybe not very strongly) I wish JH rots in a prison!!  He deserves that. But I don't wish he becomes a unidimensional vilain character.
    As a viewer I wish that his bad/evil actions come from that complex character and not from "I'm doing it because I'm evil and like it". As I said before, to me the technique the writer is using to make him a complex character is that of his delusional mind. So, I don't wish that the explanation of his actions is "he is simply bad" or "he is a psychopath" - I always think going that path (in special the latter) is too easy. I think that depicting a whole delusional character who thinks he is the good guy and the other is the bad is way more difficult, as well is more difficult to perform and more pleasurable to watch.
    I don't wish either that he becomes completely crasy. What I meant by redemption is that, during his time in prison, he becomes lucid and recognise he was the bad guy. I think it will be mostly moraly unbeareble to him, and that he will beg for forgiveness from heaven, but will not feel he will get it. So that I, as a viewer, will have at the same time the satisfaction of witnessing his suffereings, but with a grain of pity (just one grain ).
     
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  10. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    This is why the more I look at it, the more I think that is more likely that Reporter Park approaches the father than otherwise. I think it is possible Reporter Park ask step dad if it is true and step dad answers that it is a bunch of lies. The fact that he ask sd if it is all lies doesn't mean he believes it is all lies.
    If the SDad approaches R Park, the first question is "why him?" and the second "who indicated him?". I can se only one person who could indicates R. Park: SR. But I can't see why she would choose him to destroy EH's image. To me, I think it most unprobably that SR will choose/indicate Reporter Park - who she nows is in friendly relationship with EH - to ternish EH image, instead a reporter who doesn't like EH. That doesn't make sense. And as most of us here, me too I trust the writer, and trust his capability to avoid mankjang even when it will be easy to do that.
    My guess: Reporter Park investigations are autonomous from SR and JH machiavelism. And I think that it will be with his aid that SR's plan of destroy EH's image won't be succesfull.
    I will be very surprised if Reporter Park joins hands with SR and JH, in special, because his wife is a fan of "My love ED" .
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  11. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    Nope, she lied twice, when she said to EH at the park that she loved JH
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  12. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    Hello!
    Wow so many pages!! It's getting difficult to be up to date with you guys/gals
    I'm liking very much the debating around JH character.  And I agree with many regarding JH being a very layered vilain. If he is pure evil or not it is disputable, given his many shades of gray, but he is clearly a vilain.
    To me, the crucial aspect that makes JH layered (and some of us, in spite of ourselves, can in a way relate to him) is the fact that JH really believes he is the wronged person. While he is clearly making bad (even evil) things, he acts and feels as if it is himself the victim. It is delusional, but I think that it is through this kind of delusional reasoning that he can cope with his vilain side. Yeah, there are moments when he is lucid (as when he asked "wasn't I who came in between?"), but the more he is loosing his power over ED the more delusional he becomes, the more he believes everything is the fault of that "bad man": HS/EH.
    I think it is possible that JH could get some redemption from the writer. In my mind, this kind of redemption isn't saying I'm sorry and being forgiven by ED-EH. The redemption that I foreseen to JH is that of "character redemption" and not of a "person redemption". The latter would be a redemption got from the others "persons" in the drama (meaning ED-EH), which could mean "we will allow you to keep in touch with RI", for exemple. IMO, in the drama people should be very rigourous towards his acts.
    However, the character redemption depends on the viewers. It is the result of character-viewer relationship. To me, this redemptions implies that in the end viewers should be satisfied that the character kept its intregrit, that is: its layered construction. IMPOV, it would mean that, while paying his crimes in a prison, through an introspective/existential journey, JH would come up from the nightmare that he hinself creates and recognizes that everything, even his unhappness, were indeed due to his own vilanuous actions, and wishig forgiveness from heaven.
    I don't know, but I wished something like Darth Vader (Star Wars) who travelled from the bright to the dark side of the force, and at the end came back to the bright side. I think that JH also travelled from the good guy to the bad guy. However, if in the case of Darth Vader he was re-integrated physically and emotionally in the bright society amongst the "goods"; I think that the redemption to JH should be an inner journey, far away from ED-EH-RI. I think it would close with awasomeness a really layered, so well-written and so well-performed character. 
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  13. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    I don't desagree! What I meant is that he only needs to sue EH if it comes public that JE is ED, so far this is a "family secret". So it doesn't make sense that step dad will blow up the whole "family secret", turning public that there is a connection between JE and ED, even if the connection - according to him - is a lie. In principle, from Choi and step dad point of view, keep secret that ED is JE is more advantageous to them. But sure step dad always knew the former name of JE is ED.
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  14. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   


    Really!? In this case, could be that he is interested, doing his job and through his research find out who ED is and came to interview the step father. If it was step father who called him he could be asking if it is a lie. But now, I'm thinking it doesn't make sense at all stepdad try to sue EH, because for everybody his daughter is JE not ED, and the book is about ED. Unless, it will be already public that ED is JE at that moment.
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  15. ninaanin added a post in a topic [Current Drama 2015] My Love Eun-dong 사랑하는 은동아 — Fridays and Saturdays at 8:40PM KST   

    Wow! The preview!!!
    I agree that both stepmom and stepfather dind't know that RI isn't Choi's son. I think that JH told to them that the whole ED's behaviour was caused by EH's influency, and lied that before EH's came she loved him and that they even slept together (what one can think is a big "demostration of love"). ED's step parents had no reason to not believe in him, and then step dad help him to make up the whole story. One thing that strongly impressed me in ep.9 was what JH said to ED: "he makes you a bad person, he did it before and is doing it now". To me, he wasn't saying it just to stop her from seeing EH, but more that in his ditorced mind he can believe that and act according to his beliefs. I mean, I think it's a kind of justification to him, as saying to himself "she isn't in her good mind, it's him who makes her behaves bad and thinks she dosn't love me, it is his fault, everything is his fault, not mine: he makes JE bad".
    Well, it seems that I was right and that reporter will have an important role in descovering the truth. I think that this is the worst movie step dad (maybe in accordance with JH - but I don't think) could make: the worst movie!! First, the reporter knows EH from long; second, even if believes it is all lies, he will dig in to know what is true, and not only repeating what ED's step dad will say. I think the guy will do his job!
    And of course they spent the night together, not only talking but surely making love. It will be very unrealistic if after 10 years of repressed desires they didn't consumate their passion!!!
     
     
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