@honeygeeko So did the ratings go downhill after SE's scandals or only after Yewon's. If I recall correctly, it is usually between 7-8% even after SE's scandals. But after Yewon's scandal, it was down to 3% and stayed there ever since. Yewon's scandal totally obliterated SE's because Koreans takes manners and seniority very seriously, while SE's scandal is a personal matter albeit affecting her reputation. People gave her a free pass on the basis of their love for her in BoF and because JR was magnanimous.
I've watched a couple of episode of Wooyoung and Seyoung and found them to be lacking in attractive and chemistry. She's similar to SE in many ways but at least she didn't flinch or show any disdain on her face. Their skinship was like their feelings for each other -- at a snail's pace. Even I had to cringed when I watch the last episode where he kissed her because they had zero attraction for each other. In fact, I've read fan accounts' that they barely spoke to each other when the cameras stopped rolling when they had a public wedding in Singapore. Liuwen is a very conservative girl, which is surprising considering she is a Victoria Secret model. It's good to know that girls will not automatically throw themselves at idols, so it brought down Siwon's ego a notch or two.
@Lmangla If i recalled correctly, her agency didn't make any statements. Perhaps it's because the sina interview was done in China, and not Korea. But with the digital age where information are shared at the speed of light, fans saw the interview within hours.
This reminds me of the netizens who visit koalas playground blog. As you all know, koalas is very blunt and opinionated. But it's her blog and she can posts whatever she wants. So why are there visitors who posted in the comment section, telling her to be less nasty, etc. If they don't agree with her opinions, don't visit her blog. She's not posting to win any popularity contest, it's so ridiculous! I visit her blog all the time, but it doesn't mean that I agree with everything she posts. These people need to grow up!
@honeygeeko I'm afraid I will rejoice when Solim really leaves WGM because finally, JR will be out of her clutches. I'm not going to rub it in by intruding into other people's "homes". But if they are grieving in their own "homes" and we are rejoicing over here, what right have they to complain?
I hope that they do not cast idols who bat for the other team, otherwise the match up is not realistic. Frankly, i think the PD shouldn't just match them up based on her own selection. They need to meet up a few times first to gauge their interest in each other. Otherwise, it will be like Solim. I think they need a total revamp on the partner selection process. It will be great if they could have casual dates with various potentials and they choose the partners they feel attracted to. Even though they did the same thing with BE and Hewon, we know it was rigged because they couldn't let them choose the same person. But these means that some may not be chosen, which may not look good for their image.
@Lmangla He was alluding to the BMW that Son Ho Joon has. But that could belong to his agency cos SHJ comes from a poor family and he struggled for 10 years and only started gaining popularity after Reply Me 1994.
@piruka4 I didn't understand what was there to spazz about in that episode. I could see the hurt in his eyes yet he was trying to comfort her. I couldn't see any remorse from her at all. Her apology was to demand that JR believe her because she's an honest person. JR is only small potatoes in her eyes, that is why she always feels she is better than him and thus disrespects him. He could only retort with his "whatever" comment which of course she didn't catch his meaning. The beef I have is that after this scandal, instead of repenting and being appreciative of the second chance given, her pranks got worse. I'm sure she will be able to force out the tears in the last episode. Hers will be tears of joy cos she doesn't have to engage in any skinship with JR any longer.
@Lmangla It's also possible that they weren't full even after having eaten at the banquet? Or perhaps the food didn't suit their taste? Cos it happens to me pretty often. @piruka4 Then it's strange isn't it? Because in the apology episode, she told JR that Son Ho Joon visited her mom in the hospital. Assuming after SE attended the wedding, she went home to change and then went together to visit her mom in the hospital. After the visit, they were supposed go to his place because all their friends were there, at 2AM. Actually...who cares what she did or didn't do cos it's her personal life. She shouldn't have been caught in public with another guy while she's still in WGM. In the words of a responsible virtual wife, let me borrow the words of Jinyoung "I tried to be as open as possible when i participated in the show. So, having physical contact with him wasn't that hard...I cut off seeing other men who were interested in me, while I was filming the show. For the time I appeared in the show, Namgoong was the only person I met." What drives the insult was that she mentioned she got close to Son Ho Joon & Yoo Yoon Suk because they are in the same industry. So....what does that make JR?
@bakachan Double standards indeed. What's even more unfair was that SE was caught by despatch with photographs as evidence, while Hong Jong Hyun didn't. The lame argument from SE's agency was that they were not alone but on the way to meet up with other friends who were in Son Ho Jong's home although there were no other people in the photographs. The funny thing was, both of them were not dressed as if they had attended a wedding earlier, which they claimed to have. Correct me if I'm wrong, cos I'm relying on my memory.
It's weird that solim didn't interact with any other couples, in the form of competitions. When jjongah and minyoung were there they had a studio competition and an outdoor competition to win prizes for their trip and new house. They didn't even have anyone visit their old home and the country hell. Only the boys from 5urprise had a meal with them which was obviously a marketing ploy.
Actually the constant self righteous attitudes of the shippers is the reason I dislike SE even more. She's just doing her job in WGM, albeit a bad one. It's the same when we criticize any actor/actress of their bad acting in any drama. But after the drama ends life goes on. They refuse to admit her shortcomings yet their only defense are, ie. We are mothering JR, he's a man he can take it, it's just a variety show, we want JR for ourselves, we are jealous of SE etc, which are not valid reasons to change my opinion of her. I'm fine if they don't agree with my pov but don't belittle my opinions and come to this general WGM thread for the purpose of calling us haters and that we bring negativity to the thread. Is there a quota or rules that say we can't post negative feedback? There's nothing wrong having different opinions but why are we made out to be trouble makers and haters? My point is, if shippers want us to change our opinions of SE, then give their rational thoughts and analysis instead of demanding that we believe them simply because.....???? It reminds me of Solim apology episode where she demanded JR believes her cos she's an honest person. So that is a good enough explanation to believe her? But I digress. Their behavior only serve to validate my dislike of her and I'm more convinced that my pov of her is not wrong.