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SammyCouture wrote on 26 January 2012 - 08:50 AM:
I got my eyes done last year in NYC with Dr. Jeffrey Ahn~~~ (biggest regret of my life.... *sulking*) and I'm going for a revision this summer~~ Unfortunately, it is going to be a hard surgery and I have to really hope I find a doctor who can mend these deep scars that he left ㅠ____ㅠ I'll keep everyone updated once I come back ^^ Soooooooooo nervous~
asiangurl36 wrote on 15 February 2012 - 04:13 AM:
Hi, I also had the partial incision for my eyes done by Dr. Ahn in 2006. I was happy with the results because I was younger then and was pushed by my mom to get the surgery. So I asked for a small crease. Now, I'm older and realize that the small crease does not fit my face well and would like to get a revision with possible epi because I feel like the layer of skin near my tear ducts hides the dark part of my eyes that makes them appear smaller.
Would going back to Dr. Ahn be a mistake? Why were you dissatisfied with him?
GoPenny wrote on 07 February 2012 - 01:58 AM:
@Voag- I'm not sure if it's static or dynamic. How do you know without asking the doc? Whichever method commonly used to correct ptosis and revision is probably it... but now I'm curious. I guess I'll ask. What's the Korean terminology for S or D?
_nika_ wrote on 17 February 2012 - 12:06 AM:
SammyCouture your eyes look really good! And the fold is perfect. But I guess it might look different in person. The only thing is the epi scar but that's something we all have to deal w/. And maybe the shape of the line doesn't look consistent. The before picture looks really crazy...but it healed so well.
asiangurl36 wrote on 17 February 2012 - 06:12 AM:
I want to make my eyes look rounder and bigger to look more alert and doll-like. Would you guys recommend the lateral canthoplasty or epicanthoplasty?
ohwhat wrote on 17 February 2012 - 09:52 PM:
Sammy, i think your eyes are beautiful. and in my opinion, your eyes healed so well this time compared to the previous time. from the picture i can't really notice the scar, but i'm sure whatever scar you have will fade w/ time.
haneystar wrote on 18 February 2012 - 05:36 AM:
Sorry to hear about your case, Sammycouture! Have you tried using scar removal gel for the epi scars? I used to have reddish brown scars on my legs & I used Vit E to lighten it. Now it's almost invisible.
As for the clump on the lids, are they very obvious even when your non-make up eyes are relaxed? Because in your previous post, the clumps are only more visible when you intentionally look down. I'm just thinking if it's really necessary for you to go through a revision because your eyes actually look good besides the epi scars.
nailbunny wrote on 16 February 2012 - 10:44 PM:
I know OZ doesn't have the best reputation, but I went for the consult since the girl I'm rooming with was definitely getting her surgery there. I thought Dr. Park was really nice and his English is very good. I believe he recommended me incisional + medial epi when I e-mailed him before. Seeing me in person, he changed and said I did not need the epi, but I could get it if I wanted.
Complications: he warned me (specifically said, "I am warning you ahead of time") that because I have very little fat in my eyelids, down the line, I run the risk of developing multiple folds in my eyelid (like a triple eyelid).
Price: motherf....I can't remember. I think it was between 1.46-1.65m won.
I went to Korea with a major, major bias towards teuim and Dr. Kwon. This visit, however, is the one that totally threw me for a loop. Dr. Kwon analyzed my eyes for a while, and ultimately suggested 3 procedures: non-incisional (wtf??), epi (~1mm), and fat graft above my eyes. They also called in Dr. Kim because as soon as I heard non-incisional, I had like a hundred questions. Dr. Kim told me I had the ideal eyes for non-incisional surgery. I asked them, can I achieve my ideal eyes with non-incisional vs. incisional, will the crease be as defined as incisional method, and isn't the chance of fading or coming undone significant for non-incisional? They, of course, insisted that yes, I could get the look I wanted, the crease will be defined, and Dr. Kim stressed that it would be "permanent" (wat).
Dr. Kwon also said the fat graft was necessary (more on this later - I assumed this was to deal with the problem Dr. Park mentioned, except Dr. park didn't mention any preventative measures, just warned me about it). The epi is NOT necessary, but he said I would only be able to achieve an in-fold without the epi, and both he and I actually agreed that the in-out fold (he actually suggested an in-out fold that is very slightly out) looked the best. This was one aspect I wasn't able to determine before I got to Korea (in vs. out)...so hearing this didn't help much. I kept asking about incisional vs. non-incisional, so Dr. Kwon said if I wanted, I could get incisional, but it was really obvious that neither he nor Dr. Kim recommended it (Dr. Kim gave me a nice spiel about how incisional is fine, it's very common, but HERE ARE ALL THE DOWNSIDES. And here is why your eyes should get non-incisional.)
They said if I wanted to do it today (original plan, if Dr. Kwon and I agreed on eyes/procedures/etc...this was when I thought I needed incisional + skin excision ), I had to literally do it right then -- Dr. Kwon was booked the rest of the afternoon. I asked them to give me like 15 minutes to think about it, and ultimately decided that the procedures were so different from what I was expecting, I didn't feel comfortable going through with it (um, plus, I didn't have enough cash). I need to let them know ASAP for the 20th though if I decide to go with Teuim.
Price: 2.8m won...higher than I was planning for since I thought I would just be getting incisional, with optional epi.
I went here since the clinic sounded very trustworthy from the posts here on soompi...plus the e-mail communication I had with Dr. Lee was very clear and helpful. I agree that he seems very academic, and really smart. He told me I had nice eyes, big and the proper distance apart. He suggested incisional + internal epi. The difference he stressed was, do not cut the bottom corner of your eyes. Like ssuigeneris had said, he is very strong about maintaining your "ethnic identity" and said getting rid of the fold gets rid of some of your ethnic looks (really, in principal, I agree with him). Plus, he said I already had enough exposed caruncle (and the distance thing). If you can imagine your eyes as a box, the epi he suggested would not open up the bottom inner corner, but the top inner corner (I know, in actual eyes, it's not actually a corner, it's your eyelid. It's the clearest way I can think to explain it though. I never understood what other people meant when they described it before). He also said since I had very little fat above my eyes, he would actually remove a small amount of muscle/tissue from lower area (so, the area below the fold of a double eyelid). Removing muscle scares the crap out of me, to be honest.
I did ask him about complications since my eyelids are apparently so non-fatty. He acknowledged that the development of multiple folds was a definite risk, but he said he thought the risk would be "very, very low". I also asked him if he thought a fat graft was necessary, and he said, "if years down the line, you develop the triple eyelid, then we can do the fat graft then. But not now." I said I would rather not have to get a surgery with the knowledge I need to redo, and he said that the risk of developing the multiple folds was very small, but that fat graft itself is unpredictable. Like you don't know exactly how the fat will distribute, the eyelid skin is a lot thinner than elsewhere, so it's easier to mess up, and that if it "clumped" (he said another word here I didn't quite catch), it would be very unsightly. Also said non-incisional was ok, but he suggests incisional. I have to let him know yes or no in...2 hrs, otherwise he doesn't think I have enough time before I leave.
Price: said these were very simple procedures and gave me a quote in USD - $1500
Now that I am sufficiently confused and seriously thinking of extending my trip, I am going to go do more research. If anyone wants to chime in, please do.
cstrike wrote on 12 February 2012 - 02:15 AM:
I am glad surgery worked out for you.
Would u mind sharing with us more details of your surgery? Like where you got it from, etc
hotsauce1234 wrote on 12 February 2012 - 04:54 AM:
Wow 2 months...? I guess the gel really helped out a lot ! Could you please tell us which silicone scar gel are you using ? It would be greatly appreciated.
::jaeboo::<3 wrote on 11 February 2011 - 09:55 AM:
I recently did my surgery at IVE Clinic located at Apgujeong. I don't really remember which incision I did but I took out fats and did epicanthoplasty. The whole surgery cost me about 1.5k USD.
This is me before with make up (eyeliner, eyelid glue, lashes and lens):
And this is after 3 weeks with make up (eyeliner and lens) :
*You can still see the scar at the inner corners. Besides that my left eyelid is quite visibly less deep set compared to the right one...not really bothering me much but I'll consult the surgeon when I go back in a March for a follow up.
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I'm sorry I can't show you guys the picture right after the surgery...I didn't bring my camera with me during the trip. I don't know if it's because I have a high pain tolerance or what but I practically felt nothing throughout the whole thing. The only thing I felt was the pressure when the doctor took out the fats from my lids, the pain wasn't major though. My eyes didn't swell much, not much tightness and if I didn't close my eyes, the bruises can barely be seen. Stitches were out after 5 days and by then the swelling went down to practically nothing. I do recommend my doctor to those who are interested in doing it and questions are welcome.
::jaeboo::<3 wrote on 19 February 2012 - 08:44 AM:
1 year after surgery follow up photo! haha.
with makeup and lens:
PS: Oh and of course questions are most welcome for those interested in having their surgery done in Korea. I'm currently residing in Seoul so I might be of some help. ^^
SammyCouture wrote on 17 February 2012 - 10:11 PM:
Thanks for the tip. Which gel did you use? Just regular Vitamin E?? ^^
They are obvious whenever I don't look straight up and obviously when I blink~ The crease, I can live with. but I hope they can fix my epi. Not just the scars, but I want a restoration. I found some doctors who perform these surgeries well so I'm very very very relieved~ hehe ) I was depressed this past year because of the epi *sigh* but I now have hope! yayyy