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kurumii wrote on 15 February 2012 - 01:01 AM:
Well, I've never seen anything in the media that promotes interracial marriages. It's more about accepting people who weren't originally Korean than encouraging others to marry people from other countries.Maybe you should give us some examples.
this thread is going off topic too. It was originally about east asian genetic studies, and now it's about how Korean people should keep their bloodline pure. Maybe this is what the OP really wanted to discuss?
AltaicTiger wrote on 14 February 2012 - 11:04 PM:
There is nothing wrong in saying that you want to preserve your own race. However there's something wrong when someone says that they want to destroy a certain race through promoting racial mixing. The result of racial mixing? You won't seeing that race in the next few decades or however long it takes for the gene pool to change completely. It only takes a few immigrants marrying and mixing for this to happen and it's disturbing to me as a Korean. However there is something wrong with encouraging it through the media and judging a country's progression through its embracing of multi-racialism.
koreanballads wrote on 16 February 2012 - 06:00 PM:
"Third, the Roh administration marked a watershed in the history of immigration policy. The policy under the Roh administration shifted its focus from regulation and control to social integration to ensure better treatment and human rights protection for foreigners."
"....the government is encouraging inter-country marriages."
"Korea needs to become more open society"
"Future policies will also handle national campaigns and multicultural programs to create general social acceptance toward foreign nationals and raise public awareness."
All of these articles explicitly or implicitly promote miscegenation. If you promote immigration, you are, by extension, promoting interracial marriage ---> the diluting of the Korean bloodline.
One charge often leveled at Koreans is that they aren't as pure as they'd like to think. This gives their claims regarding genetic uniqueness/preservation scientific backing.
Agreed. This is why it's so dangerous. It's deceptive because the promotion of miscegenation actually destroys the fundamental quality of being Korean, gene by gene.
AltaicTiger wrote on 17 February 2012 - 09:08 PM:
It's not just Korean government that's promoting mixed marriages, it's also most countries these days. Their media is brainwashing people into thinking mixed marriages are the norm and that society should be accepting of people from mixed marriages.
Of course, we shouldn't discriminate against people born under mixed marriages, but promoting them and giving them special attention is going too far.
In Korea, many kids born from white fathers and Korean mothers are given special attention. However let's not go off-topic now and stay on topic: East Asian genetic relationships. If anyone wants to ask anything about genetics or contribute to this discussion please feel free to do so.
Keayara wrote on 17 February 2012 - 06:58 PM:
Brainwashing and promotion are 2 very different things.
robkim wrote on 20 February 2012 - 12:27 PM:
Interesting that a thread that purportedly began as a curious examination of genetics has degenerated into its true meaning: a racist/nationalist rant. I think you're besmirching the Korean people's reputation with your crap, and geez, you're only 22. So hateful.
No trolling and racism should be allowed. This is a scientific study by geneticists.
I said no trolls are allowed, so I don't see how anyone is trolling in this thread except you.
Be proud that you are pure Korean because Koreans are the only pure Northeast Asians.
You are correct. Japanese are mongrels in that they are a fusion between proto-Korean populations (Jeolla Koreans to be exact) and Jomon (think of pale Australian Aboriginies or South Indians aka Australoids). Btw I don't mean "mongrels" in an offensive way.
What's the purpose of these statistics..?
To explain East Asian genetic relationships so that people can become aware why different ethnic groups have different characteristics (phenotypes) and the genetic relationships between different ethnic groups in Asia.
Basically what the chart shows is that Koreans are the most pure Northeast Asian (Altaic peoples)
The original post reminds me of another troll thread in another forum.......
Eclectic Asian wrote on 22 February 2012 - 09:35 PM:
Even then, that’s great and all that you found genetic "proof" that Koreans are the purest of the pure. So….now what? What can you do with this information? Or rather, what are you going to do with this information?
with OP’s rhetoric on multiculturalism, especially on the third page, it seems he may find some reluctant allies at stormfront (if he hasn’t done so already)
koreanballads wrote on 23 February 2012 - 09:27 AM:
The implications of the data have been debated continuously ITT, with very little substantive arguments coming from the pro-miscegenation side.
Stormfront is a site for white supremacists, who have an entirely different audience in mind. The white "race" is full of inherent contradictions and differs quite clearly from the Korean ethnic group; the white "race" is probably one of the least pure "races" around. This is more of a red herring than anything.
koreanballads wrote on 23 February 2012 - 09:27 AM:
Stormfront is a site for white supremacists, who have an entirely different audience in mind.
Godotology wrote on 23 February 2012 - 10:19 AM:
Race is nothing more than a social construct as its a method societies have used to group different peoples together, yet in reality you have many "grey" areas because there's no such thing as distinct separations between the groups as there are many groups that lie in between two categories that create a graduate transition.
Similarly debating the "purity" of races or ethnic groups is also pointless to an extent because people, language, and culture are fluid.
They are always changing over time. People are always migrating and mixing. Today you could argue the number of new migrants settling in Korea, and the number of Koreans migrating abroad and assimilating with other population groups, but it was always like that in history. the Korean peninsula for example had many diverse kingdoms and even different ethnic groups before it was united. People from different parts of Asia were going in and out all the time.. either for trade, conquest, etc. Even incredibly isolated areas, such as some of the Pacific Island nations, had some point in history where their cultural and ethnic make up changed due to migration.
Eclectic Asian wrote on 23 February 2012 - 03:04 PM:
yes, i am aware of that. to be fair, they claim to be white "nationalists" or "separatists" but there's always those fringe members that have a supremacist agenda. anyways, i made that earlier comment that OP may find "reluctant" allies there is because a good number of members there actually respect East Asians in terms of their respective culture and relatively higher population homogeneity. how do i know this? i curiously (months/years back) lurked through their "Opposing Views" subforum just to see if there was any good debate thread that challenged their beliefs.
if i'm not mistaken, there was a frequent poster in that subforum who goes by the username of china#1
koreanballads wrote on 23 February 2012 - 07:16 PM:
They have nothing to stand on, as any claims about "white purity" are completely contradictory, laughable, and easily dismissible to boot. If they are supremacist, well that's even worse; no "race" is better than any other.
It's pretty obvious why some white supremacists might want to "ally" with Asians and to that I say, such delusions are symptomatic of their flawed logic. No self-respecting Asian would want to have anything to do with such an alliance in the first place, see: the history of white-Asian relations.