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nailbunny wrote on 10 April 2012 - 07:05 PM:
I posted an update photo bottom of pg 470 (about 1 month post-op) but I can take a better one in the next few days if people want, or do a closed eyes pic.
SammyCouture wrote on 11 April 2012 - 09:54 AM:
Wow, I'm soo surprised they couldn't fit people in! Was it because of the peak season? How long were you staying in Korea for? Regardless, I'm so surprised and now scared.
nailbunny wrote on 11 April 2012 - 02:36 PM:
The way I understood it: on the left is the medial epi, corner cutting, w/e. If you want to see what it looks like afterwards, pull your skin in the direction of the arrow. On the right eye, the way Dr. Lee explained it was by pulling that area upwards (the 3/4's mark as described by ssuigeneris). It "opens" your eye for the eyelid fold without getting rid of the mongolian fold. I don't know how he does it though... sorry haha I don't quite remember all the details.
darkpassion wrote on 11 April 2012 - 09:17 PM:
Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me... I'm wondering if you know any other doctors who use that method? I'm thinking of finding a doctor who could combine the two for me.
breezy11 wrote on 13 April 2012 - 10:44 AM:
on one of my eyes, the indent is close to my skin colour but still visible whereas the indents on my other eye is still slightly pink
i check closing one eye to see the other eye haha
i am very pale though.
did you get a tapered, in-out or out fold?
nailbunny wrote on 09 April 2012 - 08:39 AM:
I only planned on consulting one day (3 clinics) but since I have so confused afterwards, I added another day and another 3 clinics. As I said before though, if you plan better than me, you can definitely fit more than 3 visits per day. You don't have to book your surgery beforehand, but depending on how busy the clinic is, they may want you to book very soon after your consult. For example, if I wanted to have my surgery same day at Teuim, I had to let them know basically right after my consult. I was restricted by how late I could reply because they want you to have at least 5-7 days before you leave Korea. If you are in Korea for a while, you could probably take longer with your decision.
And yep, I got non-incisional + medial epi with Dr. Kwon.
Ok so, ABOUT CURRENCY EXCHANGE. I got all my cash before I left the US, and I paid for my surgery in cash. I based all my currency conversions on google's calculator (which seems pretty well tied to xe's calculator). Both my credit card and ATM card charged a 3% transaction fee so I just paid cash. When Teuim did the calculation, they look up the exchange rate right in front of you (at least, they did for me) but there are two rates -- one that exchangers and stuff buy USD at, and one that they sell USD for (so if you're buying USD, you pay more KRW, but if you are buying KRW, you pay more USD). Teuim calculates with the worse exchange rate for you (buying KRW with USD). BUT!! and I know this may not be completely accurate: I exchanged money at a bank one day (I was at myeongdong and I ran out of cash!! haha) and they did the same thing, I went back and compared exchange rates. It was only a ~1.7% "charge" on the even exchange rate (like the interbank trading rate), which beats out any 3% transaction fee. I don't know what the heck that was about but something people going to Korea might want to keep in mind when considering money options!
momoko doll* wrote on 08 April 2012 - 08:23 PM:
thank you! you should be korea is so much fun too it would be interesting to hear your experience and what clinics you choose as well
i got full incision
i did my currency exchange back at home in the states (bank of america) before i went to avoid any overblown costs at the airport or overseas. i brought around $500 cash to korea...i think $750 would have been better for living expenses for 2 weeks since i did end up withdrawing once at the atm there, my bank charged me $6 for using foreign atm and 3% for currency exchange fee. for surgery i just used my credit card (3% currency charge from your bank unless u signed up for a credit card that does not charge u for overseas transactions) but i know some places like bandoeye do not accept CC. if you do currency exchange at home they will charge u a processing fee + a worse exchange rate than stated on google due to them factoring in risk. not sure how much fees would add up to be when exchanging at the banks in korea, but certainly worth asking around/googling. sorry i dont have much cash experience just mostly swipe swiped when i went to shop and surgery
Moona2011 wrote on 09 April 2012 - 02:34 PM:
I had done double eyelid surgery in Teumips last year with Dr. Kwon. I am not sure if you have already been there, it is not a very busy clinic. There are two doctors, Dr Kim and Dr. Kwon. Dr. Kwon is a specialist in doing eyelid surgery, he invented Magic Epican. I asked for western crease (sorry, I don't how much mm I have done). I am happy with the result, my creases look so natural. So far, I haven't heard any complaint about Dr. Kwon. He is a very soft spoken guy, not very fluent in English but Dr. Kim could help translate. If you are interested to know more, please let me know what your questions are.
nailbunny wrote on 13 April 2012 - 12:22 PM:
I'll probably put in a pic in the next week or so!
KimHeeSub wrote on 14 April 2012 - 02:36 AM:
also lulunotlemon*, I was really biased and wanted incisional due to the words of (a large chunk) this forum but when I really though of it I don't think it's possible for non-incisional to just become loose in 3-5 years time since it's leaving permanent stitches in your eyelids (which I'm sure scars the flesh in the eyelid) and incisional (I think) simply connects a (lever?) muscle to the new crease by scarring up the tissue to leave a permanent connection; one just involves a bit more scarring. Unless I guess you rub your eyes hard or frequently put on/off make up then that might strain the stitches to the point that it weakens..But what do I know, I'm only guessing~
rockhella69 wrote on 14 April 2012 - 09:49 AM:
Disappointed with my double eye lid surgery.
dear all, i don't know what to do. Just a 2 weeks ago, i headed off to seoul and had double eye lids surgery. I have faint infold lids and wanted rounded, parallel lids. from the consultation with my doctor and consultation girl, i was under the impression, he (doctor) was going to balance out my eyes, and give me higher lids. At least higher than the old lids I got. He mentioned that parallel lids will make me look old, so i was hoping for a more outer inner lids instead of parallel lids. like its still inside lids but you can see the whole lid.
However it turn out really disappointing, as the swell subsides, i realized to my horror that my lids are the same old lids. the doctor just sew over my lids to make it more deeper and make the ends a little higher and did a small epi on the other eye to balance it out. The surgery is very very subtle and I am so disappointed. They stress they wanted to give me a natural look but its so natural that nothing seems done. And my whole lid is folds inside my eyes and you can see the lids unless i tilt my head.
what should i do? should i go and get a revision? what happens if he makes it worse?
i am so disappointed cos i spend money, flew over and still end up with the same old eyes.
I did it at wonjin and i look at their website list of doctors today to find out more about my doctor and to my double horror, he isnt on their website.
I dont want to do revision with him but they said revision within one year would be free.
argghhh, plastic surgery is agonizing.
lulunotlemon* wrote on 13 April 2012 - 09:58 PM:
Do you feel like consulting more clinics would be much more beneficial than to only consult 3? :S
I am very biased towards Dr. Kwon at the moment However! I'm pretty sure the non-incisional method falls within 3-5 years and you're back to monolids. :X did they inform you of that? Or is that not true at all?
nailbunny wrote on 15 April 2012 - 10:09 AM:
^ I think Assai or something had a good experience with IOU? try looking back to find her posts or she might see this and post again.
I liked consulting with more since the suggested procedures weren't what I was expecting, so it was a good way to try to figure out what might actually be necessary and what might be extraneous. If you find someone you feel comfortable with and agree with procedure-wise, you might not need to.
I asked the permanent question so much that Dr. Kwon ultimately said if I wanted the incisional, he would do it. But Dr. Kim really discouraged me and both of them insisted that the suture method would be permanent (honestly, this might've just been sales talk, I don't know). I even asked about partial incision and Dr. Kim said there was no need to make any cut since there was nothing they needed to remove from my eyes (like fat or skin excision). Since ultimately I had 3 out of 6 clinics suggest the non-incision, I just went with it.
darkpassion wrote on 15 April 2012 - 07:03 PM:
I have a question about lateral canthoplasty... The last time I went for my consultation one doctor mentioned that there was a high chance my eyes would just go back to the original state after lateral. I was looking at id hospital and apparently they have a method that guarantees that will not happen. Anyone ever done surgery with them? Or does anyone here know a clinic that guarantees the same? I really want to elongate my eyes so I have to do lateral. However I don't really understand much about it as there isn't adequate information about the matter. I would love it if someone could explain it further to me. One more thing id hospital has a method called 7 lock non incisional surgery that 'never unwinds' according to them. Anyone heard of it?
iamMAN26 wrote on 16 April 2012 - 05:25 PM:
anyone receiving a BURNING / STINGING sensation AFTER surgery? It's been over a year now.
Continual burning sensation. It feels like the muscle/tendon right above the the cut.
No pain when I first wake up. Only after I open my eyes and then it's constant ALL day.
Anyone else getting this? What is causing this? any ideas?