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It is absolutely wrong to steal ideas

MannosukeMannosuke Posts: 12,735Member

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edited January 2012 in general discussion
You know what the most disgusting thing I've ever heard is?

Stealing ideas.
Stealing ideas to make better products.
Stealing ideas for innovation.
Stealing ideas for profit.

It's sickening how people can possibly take an idea that SOMEONE ELSE came up with, MODIFY IT, and has the nerve to SELL IT for money. With or without proper attribution.

The world would be a much better place if people stopped pirating ideas.
That's probably what intellectual property laws is for, but clearly it only works when you go through the whole legal process.

Don't you think it's much better if you came up with an idea, and no one could steal it from you?
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  • DaRkViEt73DaRkViEt73 Southern CaliforniaPosts: 1,595Friend of Soompi

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    edited January 2012
    That would make Apple the most disgusting, evil corporation of all.

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  • NPB-XKNPB-XK Thread Hijacker Area-Sexy-One - MontrPosts: 5,209Member

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    To the extreme extent, we all "stole" the ideas of Alphabets and make use of them to communicate and create some bigger "arts" like poems! Art of poetry!

    Imagine having copyrights on Alphabets, we're all pirating it! And websites with signs of Alphabets will be taken down unless they paid to use them...

    I remember reading the news about a woman trying to claim the Sun and that we'd have to pay her for borrowing her copyrighted Sun? (Something like that)
    When we run out of ways to make money, that's where governments will be heading to!
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  • snsd_foreverrsnsd_foreverr Posts: 232Member
    He is obviously being sarcastic people. The point he is trying to get at is most things in the world would not have come this for if it hadn't been for this so called "piracy."
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  • MannosukeMannosuke Posts: 12,735Member

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    Piracy usually doesn't add value to anything, unless you're pirating something useful like a $1500 application that you could learn some new skills with.
  • snsd_foreverrsnsd_foreverr Posts: 232Member
    Mannosuke wrote on 25 January 2012 - 02:44 PM:

    Piracy usually doesn't add value to anything, unless you're pirating something useful like a $1500 application that you could learn some new skills with.



    The title of the thread is about stealing ideas. That was what I was referring to in my previous post.  

    Person A makes something. Person B sees Persons A's invention and has an idea to make it better. This is what advances technology. 
  • The_UsernameThe_Username Posts: 460New Member

    ROOKIE

    edited January 2012
    So if I were to make a bootleg recording of SNSD and sell it on a vinyl white label verbatim, that's a good thing? I don't think so. Doing this VERBATIM is pretty lame and despicable. How about selling counterfeit purses in Chinatown? Not cool either. There is a huge difference between being inspired by something and stealing.
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  • fred2265fred2265 Posts: 95Member
    edited January 2012
    I think the reverse is more wrong - creating something that could benefit everyone  (eg new medicines) and then exploiting it for profit rather than making it available to everyone.
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  • inxomniainxomnia FunkytownnPosts: 1,101Member

    IDOL

    This kind of came up (piracy/downloading) in a recent convo with my friend who said she found that downloading something for keeps and rewatching it again without having to pay for it is wrong. My counterargument was that, that was what we did back then with VHS recording and no one complained, or when we recorded the radio on cassettes. Truth is, if something is out there via media, then it is probably always going to be out there in some way. I find that if you're trying to destroy "piracy" in all its technicalities, you will end up ruining the media.
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  • toomanytruckstoomanytrucks NYPosts: 150Member
    No, that's just the world of business.  It's not all about the idea, there is also marketing, execution in general..
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  • TippiTippi Posts: 64Member
    there is a saying:

    "great artist steal ideas, bad ones borrow"  

  • AnthonyKkoKkoAnthonyKkoKko Ontario, CanadaPosts: 1,991Member

    IDOL

    edited January 2012
    its not really stealing if you make it better..

    if nobody stole ideas, then we would still be living in caves ._.
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  • loop.statementloop.statement Posts: 62Member

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    lol.

    i remember in art class, my prof quoted picasso, "we invented nothing". that quote of picasso was stated when he first saw ancient cave paintings. 
  • CrunchyrunchyCrunchyrunchy Posts: 642Member

    IDOL

    NPB-XK wrote on 25 January 2012 - 01:23 PM:

    To the extreme extent, we all "stole" the ideas of Alphabets and make use of them to communicate and create some bigger "arts" like poems! Art of poetry!

    Imagine having copyrights on Alphabets, we're all pirating it! And websites with signs of Alphabets will be taken down unless they paid to use them...

    I remember reading the news about a woman trying to claim the Sun and that we'd have to pay her for borrowing her copyrighted Sun? (Something like that)
    When we run out of ways to make money, that's where governments will be heading to!


    the alphabet is open source.. so no one stole anything,,,
  • KeayaraKeayara fizzerific AustraliaPosts: 653Member
    Crunchyrunchy wrote on 28 January 2012 - 10:32 AM:

    the alphabet is open source.. so no one stole anything,,,

    Alphabet is public domain, open source is different. :]
  • CrunchyrunchyCrunchyrunchy Posts: 642Member

    IDOL

    edited January 2012
    Keayara wrote on 27 January 2012 - 09:36 PM:

    Alphabet is public domain, open source is different. :]


    Lol the Alphabet system is so incredibly old  that copyright and patents don't even exist back when it was created. I doubt intellectual property back then were even recognized.  

    The Alphabet is open source as in people took an idea and revise it to fit their basis. There is no harm in this.
  • Grey.DropsGrey.Drops United StatesPosts: 1,454Member, Friend of Soompi

    IDOL

    Which part of the process seems the most disgusting to you?
  • MannosukeMannosuke Posts: 12,735Member

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    edited March 2012
    Grey.Drops wrote on 13 March 2012 - 06:58 PM:

    Which part of the process seems the most disgusting to you?


    The part where they strip it naked and feel it up with all their tools and tests, steal its parts and sell them off to tech pimps for cheap.
  • LittlePinky82LittlePinky82 S<3NE Posts: 709Member
    edited March 2012
    inxomnia wrote on 26 January 2012 - 03:04 PM:

    This kind of came up (piracy/downloading) in a recent convo with my friend who said she found that downloading something for keeps and rewatching it again without having to pay for it is wrong. My counterargument was that, that was what we did back then with VHS recording and no one complained, or when we recorded the radio on cassettes. Truth is, if something is out there via media, then it is probably always going to be out there in some way.  I find that if you're trying to destroy "piracy" in all its technicalities, you will end up ruining the media.


    I still VHS all the time. I have done so with workout video's from my cable's "On Demand" and can record them. I remember when I was in high school in the late 90's and early 2000's my friends and I would record songs off the radio onto cassette tapes and we'd share them with each other. Sometimes I'd have a cd that my friend would like and if she wanted it but couldn't afford to buy it yet herself she would record it onto a tape. So, what about that? 

    As for stealing idea's it's wrong to do but you can't claim ownership of an idea unless it's copywrited. If it's not and you tell someone about it and they like it and jump on it first and make tons of money off it well that's just a shame for the original person.
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  • ayahuascaayahuasca UKPosts: 1,318Member

    IDOL

    Mannosuke wrote on 25 January 2012 - 05:28 AM:

    You know what the most disgusting thing I've ever heard is?

    Stealing ideas.
    Stealing ideas to make better products.
    Stealing ideas for innovation.
    Stealing ideas for profit.

    It's sickening how people can possibly take an idea that SOMEONE ELSE came up with, MODIFY IT, and has the nerve to SELL IT for money. With or without proper attribution.

    The world would be a much better place if people stopped pirating ideas.
    That's probably what intellectual property laws is for, but clearly it only works when you go through the whole legal process.

    Don't you think it's much better if you came up with an idea, and no one could steal it from you?



    Are you just naive or stupid? If ideas weren't stolen, how'd you think the world got to where it is now? How'd the US get to the moon as soon as they did? They were years behind the Germans in rocket technology during the war. So they took the technology, a mere 30 years after the war ended we had the moon landing. If they hadn't stolen the technology, they'd have been at least another decade behind. The entire history of our species has been one of theft and improvement. We take someone else's idea, make it better and advance the sum of knowledge of the race.

    In fact, I find intellectual property laws hinder true technological leaps. Everyone who comes up with an idea wants to milk it for all the profit it's worth before letting it out into the public domain. Our technology would move in leaps and bounds if all information became available to whoever needed it, but no the stagnation caused by IP means that we limit ourselves to spurts of advancement every couple of decades. The best example has to be WW2. In 6 years of war, engine technology jumped the equivalent of 20 years of peace time (i'm not advocating war by any means as way to promote technological growth). Improvement and innovation through theft of the enemy's technology exploded during that period.
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